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The result was keep. There is sufficient evidence here to show the subject appears to meet WP:GNG (mostly due to efforts by Muboshgu). (non-admin closure) RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:26, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

John Campbell (baseball) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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Subject only pitched for one inning in one professional game. That's the summation of this player's entire career. Only sources are statistical databases. A very marginal pass of WP:NBASEBALL shouldn't override WP:SIGCOV. A WP:BEFORE search as outlined in criteria D was done before nomination. For the inevitable NBASEBALL keep voters, before voting ask yourself why are we keeping articles on players that didn't even pitch an entire game, just one inning? Is this person really deserving of a stand alone biography for doing one thing that lasted less than 30 minutes of their life and was unremarkable within the broader context of professional baseball as a whole? Is this really encyclopedia worthy, or is just WP:FANCRUFT? 4meter4 (talk) 22:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:26, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Correction: Subject only pitched for one inning in one major league game. Big difference. He had a pretty long minor league career, including in the PCL back when that was the top baseball league of California (and was covered as such). BASEN exists because the entirety of his career is presumed to have coverage. What was your BEFORE search? If you're only Googling "John Campbell", you likely won't find much. But, sources exist with substantial depth of coverage: [1][2][3][4]. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that it also seems that he went by "Whitey Campbell"[5], that's not the same person as Whitey Campbell. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, meets the definition at WP:NBASE. 162 etc. (talk) 19:25, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per NBASE. Plus I agree with Muboshgu that PCL players prior to Major League Baseball moving to California and particularly pre-1940 or so have greater notability in general than career minor league players subsequently (but of course this particular player made it to the majors regardless). Rlendog (talk) 20:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • By the way, I was able to find at least one story about him [6] [7]. Rlendog (talk) 21:32, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • And another [8]. Rlendog (talk) 21:34, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • Another, albeit from the same newspaper as the first [9]. (Oops, this one is the same as one of Muboshgu's, which I missed in my first reading). Rlendog (talk) 21:37, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Meets WP:NBASE #2, per Muboshgu and Rlendog's reasoning and arguments. Ejgreen77 (talk) 06:01, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually Rlendog and I have shown that John Campbell the cup-of-coffee baseball player meets WP:GNG in addition to NBASE #2. And that should be the lesson for why we have NBASE #2: even these obscure players do have news coverage, and if you look in the right places you'll find it. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:09, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Meets WP:NBASE. Best, GPL93 (talk) 11:08, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notability =/= "major league only". RomanSpa (talk) 21:58, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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