Talk:Eurabia conspiracy theory

political neologism, a portmanteau

The terms political neologism, a portmanteau appear in the first sentence of the article.

I am not a native speaker of English but I believe that even native English speakers aren't familiar with these two terms and that anyway even most native English readers will feel a psychological twitch or would be biased when coming across these two works juxtaposed and hence I think that the first sentence of the article should not include these words. 2A10:8012:19:AD67:81FC:8744:739A:CC41 (talk) 14:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately these are the words in English that have exactly the meaning required. It could be said in a more long-winded way but to do so would give undue space to the etymology (which is important enough to be in the lead). Both terms have links to articles that explain them if needed. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have seen the Blue links but it doesn't matter; I personally find a problem of reading flow, when these two words are juxtaposed in this context, to the level which I find the article failing to pass on the message at its core. 2A10:8012:19:AD67:4820:3F5B:E02B:F013 (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. I think is is OK. The only way to make it simpler would be to recast the introduction to be more directly about the conspiracy theory and less about the term itself. E.g.
Eurabia is a far-right, anti-Muslim political conspiracy theory, which alleges that globalist entities, led by French and Arab powers, seek to Islamize and Arabize Europe, thereby weakening its existing culture and undermining its previous alliances with the United States and Israel. The name Eurabia is a neologism, composed as a portmanteau of Europe and Arabia.
That only helps a little bit so I'm not sure if it is worth doing. Maybe it would be good to break up the longer sentences but I can't see a nice way to do that. DanielRigal (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how best to phrase the opener, but based on your quote, I suggest this:
Eurabia is an anti-Muslim concept, which alleges that globalist entities, led by French and Arab powers, seek to Islamize and Arabize Europe, thereby weakening its existing culture and undermining its previous alliances with the United States and Israel. The name Eurabia is a neologism, composed as a portmanteau of Europe and Arabia.

Arabia or the Arab world

Eurabia is comprised of Europe and Arabia, no doubt, but the context is "The Arab World" (which is a predominantly Muslim), hence wouldn't it be better to write "portmanteau of Europe and the Arab world"? Thanks. 2A10:8012:19:AD67:4820:3F5B:E02B:F013 (talk) 16:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, because where would the "ia" bit come from? The whole point of a portmanteau is that it is fitting two words together. We need to say which two words. The portmanteau of "Europe" and "the Arab world" would probably be "the Eurarab world", which is not the same word as "Eurabia", even if it is only very slightly sillier. Anyway, it is not what the sources say and we are not allowed to just make stuff up. DanielRigal (talk) 17:50, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We should quote the sources right, I agree. What's wrong with a link such as [[The Arab world|Arabia]]? 2A10:8012:19:AD67:4820:3F5B:E02B:F013 (talk) 19:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Because it is an easter egg link, what belongs there is the word Arabia. Because what the sentence is talking about is the word itself. nableezy - 19:25, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you technically, but as long as "Arabia" links to an article about the Arabian Peninsula there is a context problem. 2A10:8012:19:AD67:2CFD:3FC6:E921:7E72 (talk) 21:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

france

Your Wikipedia article doesn't appear to explain why the French were considered a spearhead of this conspiracy theory.FourLights (talk) 01:46, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

does it really say that? User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 01:57, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. See for example «in [some] places, Bat Ye'or blames one specific European country for paving the way to the Eurabian project before the EAD: Gaullist France, which allegedly sacrificed Jewish and American interests to play the 'Arab card'» in DOI:10.1080-0031322X.2018.1493876 (emphasis from the autor). Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 13:46, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
it could be phrased better, that the conspiracy theory alleges france, not that france originates the conspiracy theory. User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 16:18, 27 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced map

The Eurabia map is unsourced, and I am unsure of the value that it adds. Currently, it violates WP:OR. I am removing it, although it may be readded after sourcing is provided. Sahib-e-Qiran, EasternShah 17:52, 16 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

This map is misleading (the Eurabia narrative do not say that) and mimic the cover of an edition of Eurabia: The Euro‐Arab Axis (see google image or equivalent). Thank you for removing it. File:Europe2.png and File:Europe (orthographic projection).svg would be more accurate but i doubt it would be usefull. If you are topic-banned from Arab-Israeli conflict then i am afraid that you are not allowed to edit the article. Visite fortuitement prolongée (talk) 18:10, 16 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I self-reverted. Sahib-e-Qiran, EasternShah 18:13, 16 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]