The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 19:47, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

David Min (footballer) → David MinDavid Min – per WP:NATURALDIS and WP:SMALLDETAILS. The footballer is known as David, while the U.S. representative is known by the diminutive Dave, providing natural disambiguation. cookie monster 755 09:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose. The American politician's name is still David Min. I would not oppose a dabpage at the basename instead of a primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:31, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 19:46, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Necrothesp. Ideally the articles should be at David Min (footballer) and Dave Min (politician), with David Min as a dab page and Dave Min redirecting to that dab page. GiantSnowman 19:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment – just because the politician's legal name is David Min, does not mean that he is better known as David Min. He is known by his diminutive, Dave. WP:NATURAL should take precedence. We have Dave Burt, not David Burt (footballer). We have the governor Joe Lombardo (legal name Joseph) and we have the Joseph Lombardo the mobster. cookie monster 755 19:11, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's just not how disambiguation works. I'm not saying that an article should be moved to the person's full name or that the politician is better known as David Min (which is why it's fine, in my opinion, to leave his article at Dave Min). But it is still his name, he will be referred to it in formal sources and therefore disambiguation is required for the footballer. I would argue that the article on the mobster should be moved. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I hope this does not come off as rude, because I mean it sincerely, how does disambiguation suppose to work? There are different criteria of course for disambiguating, but would diminutives not be an acceptable way to naturally disambiguate if subjects with similar names are known by a diminutive or not and are commonly referred to as such? We have hatnotes to deal with any issues. cookie monster 755 12:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • And I would support David Min as a dab instead of a primary redirect if this move proposal does not have consensus for support. cookie monster 755 12:54, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • As I said, anyone known as Dave Min could also be legitimately known as David Min. The politician is the primary topic for Dave Min (since as far as we are aware the footballer is not known as Dave), but the footballer is not the primary topic for David Min since that is also the politician's name and the footballer is not more notable than he is. Ergo, we need to disambiguate the footballer. That's how disambiguation works. This system has been applied to thousands of articles, so there's no need for these two to be an exception. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Necrothesp. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]