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A statement in the lead of this article reads: Fascism, a far-right ultra-nationalistic ideology — Being "far right" or "ultra-nationalistic", by itself, doesn't automatically constitute fascism. Also the prefix "ultra" is a weasel word and doesn't belong in the article, esp in the lede. Fascism is marked with wide spread oppression, mass executions, unwarranted incarcerations, lack of democracy and dictatorship, which has occurred by parties on the right and the left. The article is far from clear on these issues and has jumped to the conclusion that simply holding a far right view constitutes "fascism". Also, the concept of "far" as in far right or far left is wholly subjective and varies considerably depending on who is making such a reference. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:21, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1) Your issues seem to be with the Fascism article, not this one, so if you'd like to argue for a change, it'd be better done there.

2) Talk:Fascism explicitly addresses this argument in their FAQ.

3) Ultranationalism is a distinct offshoot of nationalism with a specific meaning, it is not just being used to catastrophize the description.

4) Fascism is an ideology i.e. a belief/collection of beliefs. It does not necessitate action, though expressions of the ideology will inherently be more historically notable & more materially understandable to a layperson. As such, actions will often be used as convenient examples when describing an ideology, despite not necessarily defining them. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 21:04, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Simonm223 (talk) 21:56, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of which supports the idea that being of the "far right" automatically makes someone a "fascist", as this article more than suggests. People who oppose abortions (except to save the mother's life) have been called "far right" time and again. Fascists? Most people oppose unchecked mass immigration and wish to have them deported have been referred to as being of the "far right". "Fascists" all? Hitler and Stalin were unquestionable fascists, and lumping in people considered to be of the "far right" only serves to diminish the true meaning of a fascist. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:34, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a policy-based complaint for this page, preferably backed by reliable sources? Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 18:37, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since we are discussing matters of opinion and the terminology used to support some of those opinions, I'm sure you realize that it would be extremely difficult to hold up some policy to support this without an endless debate. My discussion at this point was simply an appeal to truthful labeling, and of course anyone could avoid substantiating their end of the discussion as you seem to have done, as you failed to answer two simple questions about people who oppose abortion and mass immigration. It would seem that anyone who advances false accusations towards millions of people could be considered a fascist. I don't, but you seem to have provided the yardstick to do so, and of course this is not a forum, as I was just told by the other user here on my Talk page, so again, you have another reason to avoid the issue. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 18:54, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying. As you seem to have no actionable complaints & in the interest of not veering into WP:FORUM, I hope we can consider this issue concluded. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 19:03, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

While being far-right does not make one automatically a fascist, being fascist makes one automatically far-right. This is what the sentence in the article presents, so the issue you point to doesn't actually exist. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

hello,

as I have fewer than 500 edits to my name, I cannot make this change myself as it concerns a CT (US politics), but I think it would be relevant to mention Donald Trump's recent classification of "Antifa" as a terrorist organization in this article. GloBoy93 (talk) 19:18, 21 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

that's for the organization, not the term itself Regna sereno intenso ed infinito (talk) 03:01, 14 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]

so i just want to make it known that this page google marks as in Italian. That's all. ChaseTOM4YT (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has absolutely no control over what Google does. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:09, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly i think its funny it flags as in Italian ChaseTOM4YT (talk) 19:10, 9 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Google Translate and similar tools do this a lot on Wikipedia; it likely found the Italian text in this article and immediately assumed the article was in Italian. Yue ✉ 21:21, 10 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]