Talk:1984 Summer Olympics boycott
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Shouldnt South Yemen be added to the boycott list ? (Tec15 (talk) 07:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC))
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i tried to fix the pro-soviet POV in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.22.13 (talk) 16:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
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--JeffGBot (talk) 05:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
POV in portrayal of U.S. view of boycott
I think the portrayal of the U.S. response to the boycott is factually inaccurate in at least one respect and tinged by a somewhat anti-U.S. perspective that's inconsistent with the NPOV policy. One sentence reads, "The three top medal winners from the 1980 Games in Moscow were among the boycotters, but the United States saw this as a "clear advantage" as it meant they would win more medals." The clear implication to me from that sentence is that the U.S. wanted to face watered down competition and considered it to be a good thing because it would help the medal haul. The citation to that sentence doesn't support that view. It actually contradicts it. First of all, the quotes are deceptive. The phrase "clear advantage doesn't appear in the article. The article says that the absence of the boycotting nations "would leave the United States the clear dominant force." And that's an analysis of the Associated Press article author. It's not a quote from a USOC representative - let alone their expressed hope. To the contrary, the quoted USOC people seem to prefer the competition of a fully-attended Olympic Games. USOC executive director F. Don Miller is quoted as saying, "The same competition is not there with their non-participation." And later "Certain victories might not be considered hollow victories by athletes. It's absolutely not as legitimate a competition as it would have been. And I think our athletes look at it the same way." Furthermore, the wikipedia article sentence ignores the portion of the source that notes three Eastern Bloc countries were the top medal winners in 1980 in part because that Games was boycott by dozens of countries. The last issue is the description of the U.S. as "desperate" because of the boycott. The citation for that sentence is behind a paywall, so I'm not sure if the source supports it. But I'm skeptical because of the problems in the section. Plus, it seems a bit odd to view the 1984 boycott as causing desperation when the 1980 Games went ahead even though about 4 times as many nations participated in that boycott. I'm going to make some changes, but it was a little bit much to explain in an edit summary. --JamesAM (talk) 17:19, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
13-NOV-2012
This article is just too funny. Romania never had anything to do with the Soviet Union, the language, culture, and people are completely different... they were never a Soviet republic/satellite, and even during the communist regime (they were actually democratic before the communist era and now are a democracy again), both the people and politicians hated (and still hate) the Russians. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.106.19 (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
"Stricter doping protocols" section deleted
The information provided in the cited source for this section (a Jim Rome podcast) states that:
Rodchenkov met with Don Catlin in 1983 through the American Soviet Joint Doping Program.
- That program was not in existence in 1983. It began in 1989.
- Fogel states in the podcast at 39min 23sec that the Soviets planned to use "a ship" docked in Long Beach Harbor as a mobile doping site for their athletes, and that
"Reagan gets wind of this—and Gorbachev—and Reagan's like 'no no no, we're not letting a Russian ship be in the Long Beach harbor'".
- On March 27, 1984, President Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive #135 which allowed the ship—a Soviet cruise vessel called the MS Gruziya—to dock at Pier 2 Berth 53, in Long Beach harbor. Additionally, Gorbachev was not in power until 1985, and as such, played no part in the Soviet ship's docking negotiations.
The claim in the article was that there was (1) a plan for the Soviets to dope at the Games which was to be discovered because of more rigorous testing, and (2) the Soviet ship (where doping was to take place) would not be available because "Reagan and Gorbachev discovered its use" and banned them from docking in Long Beach. Those are given as the "real reason" for the Soviet boycott.
However, the evidence is clear that the ship was given clearance to dock in Long Beach Harbor (signed by Reagan in NSDD #135) and that "newer doping protocols", which Rodchenkov claimed to have discovered in 1983 under the guise of participating in the American Soviet Joint Doping Program, could not have been discovered by Rodchenkov at that time because that program did not exist until 1989.
Thus, those two major inconsistencies (including Fogel's claim of Gorbachev having a say in the matter) suggest that the information in that section is not reliable, and has been deleted. Regards, Spintendo 23:46, 18 May 2025 (UTC) Updated w/ additional info: 02:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC), 23:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Non-boycotting socialist countries
Editors please do not remove this paragraph from the infobox. Boston Mayflower (talk) 22:03, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- The purpose of an infobox is to summarize key facts about an article's main topic. The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose.[a]
- This article's main topic is the boycott and the countries which participated in it. A secondary topic would be the countries which did not participate in the boycott.
- Thus, to reconcile the article's needs with its requirements, unnecessary content on secondary topics, such as the listing of socialist countries who attend a generally socialist-boycotted Olympics, should be excluded from the infobox. The only country that attends a boycotted Olympics and which ought to appear in an infobox listing of involved parties, should be the host country. Spintendo 21:01, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
Notes
- ^ Furthermore, infoboxes should not contain paragraphs.


