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This work is a mess... Obviously the translation software was not intended for leisurely reading. The hardest bit it determining appropriate tenses and fixing reverse word order. It's going to take a mammoth amount of sitting and fiddling. LincolnDouglas 05:19, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've finished rewriting the article.

I haven't removed the copyedit tag because I'd like for someone else to read over it first and concur that it's good enough. Going from broken english to working english sometimes makes it hard to tell how good the new version actually is. :)

I (and other german speakers) need to continue comparing this version with the German version to correct any translation mistakes.

I see some other edits that I can make, but I'm done with this article for today. :)

Fourthgeek 2:52, 26 May 2005 (CST)

Well I've gone ahead and continued my rewrites and added a little information. I think the article is about done. Would be nice to get someone else to sanctify the sweeping changes I've made over the last few weeks.

Fourthgeek 1:46, 5 June 2005 (CST)

I'm not sure but I think that "pieces" is a direct translation and in German means "individual units" as opposed to in english where it is more likely to be read as "component part". KL

In the article start the given date for Hugo Schmeisser's death is September 12 of 1953, but at the After WWII section the given date of his death is December 9 of 1953. Each one of this is the correct date? -- Get_It 18:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be an error arising from US date writing = month/day/year and the rest of the world = Day/month/year- thus 12-09-1953 and 09-12-1953 become confused, if the original source for the date is US its likely to be month first date second.

The de:Hugo Schmeisser (German Wikipedia) article consistently gives the September date: ,,Hugo Schmeisser starb am 12. September 1953." I've updated this article appropriately. Kiore (talk) 02:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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By August 1945, the Red Army had created 50 StG44s from existing assembly parts, and had begun inspecting their design.

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Now that makes no sense at all, god. Not that they captured great majority of the 500 000 manufactured, they actually had to CREATE 50 of them? Something just doesnt add-up, either its total BS, or somebody is mistaken about the whole weapon, perhaps it was Stg45? But of those im not sure that parts were ever made to assemble that many weapons (more like for 10), anyways some facts checking and rewriting needed here!

Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.204.152 (talk) 02:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Beyond Mikhail Kalashnikov's 2009 admission that Schmeisser "helped" design the famous AK-47, which strongly resembles Schmeisser's StG44, little is known of his life during this period, until 1952 when he and other German specialists returned home to Germany."

Please provide a confirmation on this accusation, and that Hugo at all stayed in USSR. I have not heard Mikhail say this anywhere. I think this is total nonsense to make the Russians look stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.233.163.7 (talk) 07:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Max Popenker (surely you know who he is) said me once that according to his information, in Izhevsk Schmeisser was mostly dealing with production cycle establishment, not AK construction. --ElComandanteChe (talk) 10:13, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Besides the whole issue of the AK-47 operating nothing like the STG-44 (The AK-47 being closer to an M1 Garand then the PTRS/SKS like STG-44). A recent book on the AK-47 did mention Kalashnikov working with another Russian engineer on the design recently though, so perhaps someone got their wires crossed and though they meant Hugo Schmeisser. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.172.62 (talk) 17:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If Hugo Schmeisser worked in Russia from 1946 ,then he can have had little to do with the DESIGN of the AK47 because that was pretty well established by then and significantly different to the MP44/Stg44 . Collector Grade Publications " Kalashnikov , The Arms And The Man " suggests that Schmeissers' work was with sheet metal production techniques as used with the later AKM .(SM527RR (talk) 04:10, 16 December 2010 (UTC))[reply]

The USSR was very secretive with early development of the AK-47 and often foreigners were not allowed to take part in secret projects. Somebody should remove the part that he worked on the development of the ak-47 because there is no verifiable citation and the claim is dubious at best. Schmeisser apparently spent of his time perfecting soviet designs that where already in circulation hence the suspicion that he worked on the AKM.

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