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Smokefoot removed properly cited safety information without comment. What is the purpose of this action? This deletion will be reverted. [[User:Petergkeyes|Petergkeyes]] ([[User talk:Petergkeyes|talk]]) 02:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
Smokefoot removed properly cited safety information without comment. What is the purpose of this action? This deletion will be reverted. [[User:Petergkeyes|Petergkeyes]] ([[User talk:Petergkeyes|talk]]) 02:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Because I felt that your contribution included a serious omission. Here's your quote: "Contains trace elements including lead and arsenic." First, obviously hexafluorosilicate contains traces of other elements - everything does. And here is the quote from the Brits "Trace elements such as lead and arsenic are present in minute quantities in fluoride compounds. But, because of the very high dilution factor, fluoridation makes no measurable contribution to the concentration of these substances in the water supplies." I also thought that your inclusion of extensive safety warnings, which exceeed the level of wording we provide to most chemicals, was (i) giving advice (see [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]) and (ii) out of proportion. But do what you gotta do. The editors are accustomed to a high level of, shall we say, "enthusiasm" from those interested in fluoridation. --[[User:Smokefoot|Smokefoot]] ([[User talk:Smokefoot|talk]]) 02:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
:Because I felt that your contribution included a serious omission. Here's your quote: "Contains trace elements including lead and arsenic." First, obviously hexafluorosilicate contains traces of other elements - everything does. And here is the quote from the Brits "Trace elements such as lead and arsenic are present in minute quantities in fluoride compounds. But, because of the very high dilution factor, fluoridation makes no measurable contribution to the concentration of these substances in the water supplies." I also thought that your inclusion of extensive safety warnings, which exceeed the level of wording we provide to most chemicals, was (i) giving advice (see [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]) and (ii) out of proportion. But do what you gotta do. The editors are accustomed to a high level of, shall we say, "enthusiasm" from those interested in fluoridation. --[[User:Smokefoot|Smokefoot]] ([[User talk:Smokefoot|talk]]) 02:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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I have cut down the safety information to a minimum. We don't give this excessive level of detail in any other chemical articles. If you want to discuss how much safety info should be in chem articles, go and post a message at [[WP:CHEM]], but don't re-add the text unless you get consensus here. |
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I removed the bit of arsenic and lead, too, since there was no explanation of why this information is important. The sentence did seem to imply that the presence of these toxic metals poses a risk to people who drink water that has been treated with hexafluorosilic acid - this is not the case (concentrations too low to matter), as the reference provided points out. |
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[[User:Benjah-bmm27|Ben]] ([[User talk:Benjah-bmm27|talk]]) 22:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Proposed move to hexafluorosilicic acid
- 1) Although on some planets "Dihydrogen hexafluorosilicate" might be common, this name is rarely heard by chemists on earth.
- 2) Using the highly unreliable Google test: Dihydrogen hexafluorosilicate returned 850 hits, and hexafluorosilicic acid gave 16000.
I therefore propose to move this article (while it is still young and stubby) to "hexafluorosilicic acid", where it will grow deeper roots. Complaints, comments, concerns, etc?--Smokefoot 01:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Safety info
Smokefoot removed properly cited safety information without comment. What is the purpose of this action? This deletion will be reverted. Petergkeyes (talk) 02:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because I felt that your contribution included a serious omission. Here's your quote: "Contains trace elements including lead and arsenic." First, obviously hexafluorosilicate contains traces of other elements - everything does. And here is the quote from the Brits "Trace elements such as lead and arsenic are present in minute quantities in fluoride compounds. But, because of the very high dilution factor, fluoridation makes no measurable contribution to the concentration of these substances in the water supplies." I also thought that your inclusion of extensive safety warnings, which exceeed the level of wording we provide to most chemicals, was (i) giving advice (see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not) and (ii) out of proportion. But do what you gotta do. The editors are accustomed to a high level of, shall we say, "enthusiasm" from those interested in fluoridation. --Smokefoot (talk) 02:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I have cut down the safety information to a minimum. We don't give this excessive level of detail in any other chemical articles. If you want to discuss how much safety info should be in chem articles, go and post a message at WP:CHEM, but don't re-add the text unless you get consensus here.
I removed the bit of arsenic and lead, too, since there was no explanation of why this information is important. The sentence did seem to imply that the presence of these toxic metals poses a risk to people who drink water that has been treated with hexafluorosilic acid - this is not the case (concentrations too low to matter), as the reference provided points out.