Talk:Yemeni civil war (2014–present)
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Regarding the current map
I know that considering the STC Offensive is ongoing and there's little info about it the map can be quick to change, but currently I feel as though the map has been changed far too quick/with too little evidence. Specifically around Tarim and Al-Mahrah Governorate, I have seen no news sources claim that Tarim has been captured (to the contrary, I've seen reports that the STC is currently attacking the Al-Ghuraf area (15°58'34"N 48°59'30"E)), the only evidence I've seen that Shahn Border Crossing was captures remains unconfirmed and I've seen nothing about Al-Ghaydah. @BorysMapping, may you link the sources you used to update the map? IdioticAnarchist (talk) 19:19, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- @IdioticAnarchist: This source specifically for Mahrah: link "This morning, in a significant development on the Omani border, UAE-backed forces were able to take control of the strategic province of Al-Mahra, which overlooks the Arabian Sea, without a conflict.". BorysMapping (talk) 19:24, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
I have another question about the map : Is it accurate about the perim island ? It states that "By 8 December, Saudi forces had withdrawn from Perim Island in the Bab-el-Mandeb strait, in the Taiz Governorate, after which the STC took control of the island." https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/separatists-claim-broad-control-southern-yemen-2025-12-08/ However, according to the map, it still remain to Yemeni National Resistance. So, has the occupation ended or should the map be updated ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GaspardBG6 (talk • contribs) 23:07, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
STC and government still on same side?
I'm not well informed on this but shouldn't they be on opposing sides for obvious reasons? JaxsonR (talk) 20:12, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- 100% agree they should be included as a separate side now that the 2025 Hadhramaut offensive has taken place Cobblebricks (talk) 08:15, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- I agree too Gorgonopsi (talk) 09:22, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed, the STC and Government should be on separate sides, with the UAE moved out of the government side as well. ~2025-43286-22 (talk) 22:21, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda?
Does Al-Qaeda still control territory in Yemen? Using the latest map sourced from Al-Jazeera, Al Qaeda doesn't appear to control territory anymore. They previously controlled the Jayshan District and on that Wikipage it says they were defeated by the STC in 2022. Can we clarify there status and update the map, factions list, and information accordingly? Completely Random Guy (talk) 21:45, 10 December 2025 (UTC)
- we will have to wait for the upcoming Sanaa Center map for us to know 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:30, 11 December 2025 (UTC)
- When will they release the map? Do we know? Completely Random Guy (talk) 03:40, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
Question about the map
Hello im relatively new to Wikipedia can anyone explain why on the map shows STC controlling most of Yemen? Im not the most educated on this topic so im just wondering as it seems dramatic but theres always more to know. If anyone knows why the map naker chose this please let me know! Thanks. ~2025-40495-21 (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
Map update
Liveuamap[1] (and/or one of its sources)[2] says that the STC has withdrawn from some of the territory it captured in its most recent offensive; the Wikipedia map should be updated accordingly. QuisEstJoe (talk) 01:50, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- pinging @Ecrusized and @BorysMapping 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 07:47, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- "Partially withdrawing" is vague. I think just non-local Southern units returned to their home provinces. BorysMapping (talk) 08:00, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- the current map doesnt even match maps like this one btw [3] 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 08:09, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Personally I think this map is most accurate. BorysMapping (talk) 09:29, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- well I think that we should at least show al-Islah's control in the map since we show Tarek Saleh's forces in it too 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 09:35, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- I can update the map to show one of these sources if everyone else agrees on it. I don't know how reliable ISW is compared to Sana'a Center though. Ecrusized (talk) 10:48, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Sanaa Center hasn't made its new map yet 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 11:17, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Even if one insists on copying maps from external sources, ISW and Sana'a Center’s maps are clearly more reliable than the Al Jazeera maps currently being used. As previously noted, mainstream mass-media outlets only require maps that are sufficiently approximate to give readers a general sense of the situation; they have no obligation to verify or represent fine-grained details. Nebulatria (talk) 14:21, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- So what are you suggesting we use? Ecrusized (talk) 14:24, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- The most reasonable approach is clearly to update the relevant city articles when reliable sources report changes in control, incorporate those changes into Template:Yemeni Civil War detailed map, and then update the map based on that template. This workflow complies with WP:V and with Wikipedia’s specific guidance on war maps, as outlined in File:How war map templates and modules work.png.
- Even if this ideal process cannot be fully followed, think tanks such as the Sana’a Center should be given priority, with specialized conflict-monitoring organizations like ISW used as secondary sources. They are still far more reliable than the maps embedded in news coverage by mainstream mass-media outlets such as Al Jazeera. Nebulatria (talk) 14:41, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- +1 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:43, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- The Al Jazeera report is citing Sana'a Center. Sana'a Center hasn't released a public yet map yet, but I am assuming Al Jazeera wouldn't give them false credit, so I assume they've sent their non-public map. Ecrusized (talk) 14:52, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- I dont think that I have to repeat my comment from commons 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:55, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- I don't want to continue this circular discussion. If you have an ideal map of what you would like to see shown in the file, and have consensus between everyone else in this discussion to use it, I'll happily edit the map with that. Ecrusized (talk) 15:19, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- I dont think that I have to repeat my comment from commons 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 14:55, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- So what are you suggesting we use? Ecrusized (talk) 14:24, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
- Personally I think this map is most accurate. BorysMapping (talk) 09:29, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
Commanders and leaders
LightandDark2000, in this edit [4], you added quite a number of commanders/leaders that had been remove per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE, in that their inclusion was not supported by the body of the article. The edit has not resolved the substanitive reason in P&G for their removal. It would appear that Muhammad Abd al-Karim al-Ghamari is an addition to any that were previously present. He too, is not supported by the body of the article. As their inclusion is contrary to P&G, would you please remove them. Cinderella157 (talk) 06:04, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
STC has DECLARED INDEPENDENCE
As the STC has declared independence today, according to themselves and a wide variety of sources, we should now make a page for their state and refer to them by their state name.
Something like ”State of South Arabia (Southern Transitional Council)” PlebeianTribune (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2026 (UTC)
- eeeeeeehhhh kinda ~2026-14041-2 (talk) 19:04, 7 January 2026 (UTC)
The PlC hasn't been in this good of a postion since 2021
this the PLC now and this is when they were at there peak in 2021 and almost recaputered there red sea coastline [5] 8 April 2021
as we can see That now That APQA has been mostly been forced into a low level insurgency And most other groups have been destoryed or switched sides to The PLC the Yemeni Goverment has the ability to gain an edge in the civil war by consoldiating yemen into Central force Against The Houthi forces After A period of time Its possible we may see a situation where ther is only The PLC and The houthi Forces, Now regardless If you believe that the Yemeni goverment or PLC Has the ability to luanch an offensive against the Houthi's or even win that Offesive is Entierely Up to Debate However What We can be Certian of ethier because of Saudi Preasure on Yemeni factions or UAE forces To Re-Treat From Yemen or Military Supermecy, The PLC has come one step Closer To being Able To Achiving There Goals and With There Advantageous Position it is only A matter of WHEN and WHERE The PLC will Strike Against The Houthi Forces, or Worst Case Scenario all of Yemen Falls To the Houthi Forces. Megamind67 (talk) 06:43, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
Multilateral?
I think it should updated to bilateral due to IS and STC not really controlling anything there. KreamoNoBrainos/Kreamy/Fat Man (talk) 16:28, 14 January 2026 (UTC)













