The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Eluchil404 06:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wasel Safwan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

Self-promoting autobiography of artist; asserts notability but cites no sources. Author has repeatedly reposted the deleted (and nearly identical) article UAEism. NawlinWiki 14:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletions. —David Eppstein 14:35, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Unreferenced vanity page by/for non-notable artist. --DAJF 14:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - No significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. See WP:N. Subdolous 14:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per precedent.--Esprit15d 14:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep Unreferenced, but I'm not sure that it's unverifiable, nor am I sure of notability, but those issues may be fixed. There may be some vanity and advertising here, but I don't think it's fully cruft. I'll see if I can dig up something reliable on the issue. Unfortunately I can only review English sources. Martijn Hoekstra 15:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • http://archive.gulfnews.com/indepth/dss2007/more_stories/10141297.html Gulfnews is pretty big
  • http://www.alaintimesuae.com/pdf/aat_24_english_full.pdf not sure about the reliability of the Al Ain Times.
  • That's all I could dig up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martijn Hoekstra (talk • contribs) 15:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to the page to meet verifiability requirement. Stifle (talk) 17:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I was canvassed solicited by User:A. B. to return to this discussion. The Al Ain Times article is in the style of an advertorial, and the other cited page doesn't really say why he is notable either. WP:RS refers to mainstream newspapers, but neither of those cited have a circulation into six digits. I still say delete, although weaker than before. Stifle (talk) 18:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep -- the article about him in Gulf News clearly establishes notability as does the article in the Al Ain Times (circulation 60,000)^[1] regardless of whether the subject has started the article himself. --A. B. ^(talk) 19:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the lists of Middle East-related deletions and Visual Arts-related deletions. --A. B. ^(talk) 19:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Not notable (yet anyway). Johnbod 14:09, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I think that the Gulf News article cited by A. B. indicates notability. The fact that the artist is not in an English-speaking country means that there is likely to be less English-language coverage than for an artist of similar merit in an English-speaking country. Article needs help, due in large part to the limited English-language ability of its primary contributor. (I did some limited article cleanup after seeing this AFD.) --Orlady 19:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Maybe someone who knows some arabic could find out if he/she could find any arabic sources? Martijn Hoekstra 19:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a message (in English) for Arabic Wikipedia editors at ar:ويكيبيديا:سفارة#en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wasel Safwan asking for help. I don't know if we'll get an answer back in time before this AfD closes. --A. B. ^(talk) 01:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete — I don't think he is very notable. --MK 10:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.