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The result was no consensus. Barkeep49 (talk) 03:22, 13 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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Non-notable religious figure. Does not appear to have received significant coverage in reliable, secondary sources. Fails WP:BIO. Uncle Dick (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Uncle Dick (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Buddhism-related deletion discussions. Uncle Dick (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Undecided, subject has many hits on Google News. The Wiki article needs serious trimming though.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 11:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those Google News results appear to be in reference to a different Trijang Rinpoche who is now deceased. The one result that does appear to reference this Trijang Rinpoche is only a passing mention. Uncle Dick (talk) 15:02, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or Merge into Trijang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso/Trijang Rinpoche. This article was originally split out of that article. Google shows a number of articles that mention Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche rather than his predecessor- sufficient at least to verify that he is a real person, recognized as the tulku of a significant rinpoche, and holds a position of authority in an Indian university/monastery and an American Buddhist center. The article needs de-peacocking, but there are sufficient sources to establish the basics. --Spasemunki (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's no question that sources exist. The question is, how many of them are reliable, published, secondary sources? The argument that TCR is notable because he is the reincarnation of a notable person would seem to run afoul of WP:NOTINHERITED, though a merge might make sense. I suppose we would have to know more about the unnamed "Indian university/monastery" to judge whether or not TCR meets the criteria of WP:ACADEMIC, but I haven't seen any evidence to support notability from that direction. Uncle Dick (talk) 00:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the sources seem to be acceptable- local news reporting visiting universities and discussion in the context of the Dorje Shugden controversy: [1] [2] [3]. Shar Gaden is the name of the monastic university- [4] [5]- but I'm not sure if it would have sufficient English-language coverage for notability. I notice that this particular tulku appears to be associated with the Dorje Shugden controversy, which has some systemic bias considerations in my opinion. --Spasemunki (talk) 02:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First of all I agree with Spasemunki on de-peacocking the article. Dalai lama actually gave him a sacred statue of Buddha and not status of Buddha. That was type on my part. I fixed that. I have been interested and been doing a lot of research on the Dorje Shugden controversy and Lamas quite recently and it seems he is one of the highest Gelugpa and Dorje Shugden Lamas recognized by HH The Dalai Lama. Not just google, but if you search Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche on youtube, there are tons of results. below are few examples:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ArMmE0Rm0 Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche leading the procession during the buddha's relic tour. He is carrying relics and leading the procession from United Nations to the exibhition hall in Geneva, Switzerland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAfItTO-SZM Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche arrival at the Mongolian airport covered by Mongolian City New Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yMC0Pft9F0 Trijang Choktrul Rinpcohe visiting Chojin temple covered by Mongolian City News Channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aW6AsIW6s4 arrival to Mongolia convered by Mongolian National Television

His birthday seems to be celebrated by his follower all over but here is a youtube link where his birthday is celebrated by the entire town of Chatring in Tibet and celebration is done in the city center. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9PIaj3g-Lk

Trijang Choktrul Rinpoche arrival in Tashi Rabten center Austria and welcome by the town Feldkirch, Vorarlberg in Austria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9US8tuxZik

Also there are lot of videos of his visits and teachings in Bloomington, Canada, Switzerland, Austria, France, Italy.

In Italy he has been invited by Lama Gangchen; head of Lama Gangchen World Peace Foundation – LGWPF – is a Non Governmental Organisation associated with the United Nations Department of Public Information and in special consultation with ECOSOC http://www.buddhanet.net/masters/gangchen.htm https://kunpen.ngalso.org/en/kunpen/lama-gangchen-world-peace-foundation/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY3oDlRvtxA DHUKTOPGYAL (talk) 16:28, 21 March 2020 (UTC)DHUKTOPGYAL[reply]

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