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Non notable person other than being a contestant on a show Alexthegod5 (talk) 00:04, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This person competed on a little known drag show for one season to be the "drag queen". Not notable at all. DotesConks (talk) 00:14, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DotesConks, I'm editing your reply to say "delete". ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanahary I'm not sure why I said oppose there, but thank you for correcting my mistake DotesConks (talk) 00:22, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How, @DotesConks, is RuPaul's Drag Race a "little known drag show"? I'm not a fan of the (reality show) genre, and have never watched - but I'm well aware of it's existence, that it's shown around the world, and that it spawned an entire franchise. Surely this is very well known (and loved) show. Nfitz (talk) 20:56, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nfitz Interesting, I have personally never heard of it until right now which is why I thought it was not notable. DotesConks (talk) 23:44, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It has 24 Emmys - and dozens more nominations. It's a massive high-quality well-respected and well-received show for many years. But I guess if one doesn't know. Nfitz (talk) 00:44, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DotesConks, participants in AFD discussions shouldn't base their arguments on what they know but on their evaluation of sources in the article and ones they find when they do a search. Pleases do your due diligence if you want to fully participate in deletion discussions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:08, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have found some sources covering this person. Yahoo Pride (not sure if that's reliable), Gay Times (not sure of this one either, seems like a lot of "Madonna Stuns in New Selfie" crap), and an interview with Billboard.

I'll also note that "not notable apart from being a contestant on a show" and "the show they competed on is little-known" (which is really not true, it's a famous show) are not policy-based arguments; deletion arguments should derive from the notability guidelines. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:24, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. This coverage does not seem significant enough to me for this person to meet the GNG. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanahary Thank you for the feedback! So just in the future, notability guidelines generally include coverage even if it's (for example) someone who starred in one show or movie? Let me know if I should ask this on your talk page too Alexthegod5 (talk) 00:39, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Someone whose entire career (and notability) comes from a TV show appearance can still be notable and meet GNG. It's just unlikely that they would. But take Dorinda Medley for example: she was not a public figure before being cast on the Real Housewives of New York, and now she is an independently notable person. In my opinion, coverage of a person that is about nothing but their time on a reality show (like how Survivor contestants often get a bunch of Entertainment Weekly articles about them and interviews after they're voted off) does not demonstrate notability, but I don't know what the community's consensus on that sort of thing is. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:43, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Television, Sexuality and gender, California, Georgia (U.S. state), and Missouri. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:21, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:ENTERTAINER and WP:HEY. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:19, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Agree with nominator that coverage is about appearance on one show which to me fails WP:ENTERTAINER and falls under WP:BLP1E. Most references are about the appearance on the show and many are interviews. If the subject goes on to have additional roles and/or significant contributions as an entertainer I'd be open to revisiting. Nnev66 (talk) 16:54, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Lean keep This strikes me as a better candidate for deletion than some of the other AfD noms of drag artists recently, but I think the Yahoo Times article linked above by Zanahary (because it is a profile on their life and background, and not coverage about their season on Drag Race) together with the performer being in an OUTTv documentary as well as two cable-broadcasted television shows, RuPaul's Drag Race and Untucked!, is enough to clear the threshold set by WP:ENTERTAINER. Also, calling Ru Paul's Drag Race a "a little known drag show", as some editors have, is like calling American Idol a "local singing contest". That's simply inaccurate and should probably not be assigned a lot of weight in the consensus decision. Flip^andFlopped ツ 16:52, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I can't find any significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Fails general notability. 190.219.103.81 (talk) 03:25, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:36, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not that notable besides being a contestant on RuPaul's Drag Race. An editor from Mars (talk) 06:46, 3 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]