The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. No support beyond nominator for outright deletion and several sources offered as GNG-qualifying and unrebutted. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:35, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Emma Manners, Duchess of Rutland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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She is married into nobility, and does not seem notable as a businesswoman or podcaster. I don't think a redirect to Belvoir_Castle#Present_use would benefit the reader, nor would a merger be Due. She's separated from David Manners, 11th Duke of Rutland so I'm not sure a merger there makes sense, and redirecting a woman to her spouse always seems odd to me. Star Mississippi 02:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Women, Royalty and nobility, and England. Star Mississippi 02:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Radio, and Television. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:29, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge into her husband's article. This is such a common outcome as an ATD, do I need to link examples or my essay? Bearian (talk) 10:35, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She is the CEO of Belvoir Castle and runs its commercial activities. She is a published author and podcaster, and highly active on social media, making her on of the nobles with a strong online presence. She is a successful businesswoman and, in my view, there is room for her own page. Although she is separated, in my view, she is slightly more notable then her husband, given the widespread interviews she has given to several outlets throughout the years. GrandDukeMarcelo (talk) 11:42, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, meets WP:GNG. There is SIGCOV of her over time in independent, reliable, secondary sources including The Times, the BBC, The Daily Telegraph and the Palm Beach Daily News. I have added some info - there is more in the sources about what she has done to restore, maintain and promote Belvoir Castle (it sounds like a lot more than her husband has done). RebeccaGreen (talk) 12:52, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Couldn't agree more GrandDukeMarcelo (talk) 14:18, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as subject meets WP:GNG. Quick google search shows coverage in The New York Times , The Telegraph, BBC, Leicester Mercury, Shooting UK Spears Magazine People, The Daily Post, The Times, Shropshire Star. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 15:40, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. She meets WP:GNG but the references need improvement. Nineteen of the current 42 are her autobiography and therefore should eventually be removed (along with their claims if not substantiated elsewhere) because to state the obvious they are from a source that is not independent of the subject. I have added a template. Ira Leviton (talk) 23:21, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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