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The result was keep‎. Cunard's in-depth analysis of the sources went unchallenged. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No more notable now than she was when the previous article about her was deleted. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christina Christian). Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Music, Television, and New York. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:44, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I figured I'd try since a) the 2006 article [1] missed a lot of information/sources, b) she was/is notable for her hospitalization for which she received dedicated mainstream coverage, c) I thought being a finalist in the first ever AI season could be intrinsically notable, I wasn't planning to do any other finalists.

I might be wrong on whether these things matter, though, since you're right she hasn't really done anything major since 2006 except the book she wrote, which only received dedicated coverage in local/niche news. JSwift49 01:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for creating this excellent article, JSwift49 (talk · contribs). Christina Cewe meets Wikipedia:Notability#Notable topics have attracted attention over a sufficiently significant period of time through coverage in Gehrke-White 2005, Rushfield 2011, and Smolowe et al. 2005 as the sources were published years after her 2002 appearance on Season 1 of American Idol. Since she has received sustained coverage, Wikipedia:Notability#Notability is not temporary applies and she is notable even if she has not received significant coverage more recently. If you have the time and interest, I encourage you to continue creating articles like this for other American Idol contestants who have received sustained coverage. Cunard (talk) 10:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep per lasting coverage in this book. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the complaints about reality show fans that lead to the relatively stringent standards at WP:REALITYSINGER should be relaxed for someone who has special significance beyond mere participation (being a finalist in the first season, being the subject of one of the show's first conspiracies) Mach61 (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Doing a WP:BEFORE with a reliable source search, finds nothing apart from an interview: [2]. There is nothing of worth on social media, no coverage on any reality programmes. The book cited above is a journalist who directly assigned to work and follow the shows, so its not WP:SECONDARY coverage. Probably fails WP:BASIC, WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 13:58, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Why does the journalist being assigned to cover 'Idol' make his book not WP:SECONDARY? It's not someone who was involved with creating the show. JSwift49 21:17, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 15:21, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:

  People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.

  • If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.

  Sources
  1. Gehrke-White, Donna (2005-04-18). "After Idol". Miami Herald. Archived from the original on 2024-02-03. Retrieved 2024-02-03.

     The article notes: "Before there was Nadia, there was Christina. In the first season of American Idol, Christina Christian captivated fans by belting out sultry tunes in her distinctive Sade-esque style. Three years later, she's still belting out tunes, but now she's writing them, too. She's done a little acting, appearing in a episode of her favorite TV show, CSI: Crime Scene Investigation. She has traveled to Africa and Europe as a result of her Idol fame. Today Christian, 23, is living in Pembroke Pines with her husband of just over a year, Nicholas Cewe. She is again working toward her bachelor's degree in sociology - the Idol show and subsequent traveling interrupted her college studies. This month, she finished a real estate course."

  2. Rushfield, Richard (2011). American Idol: The Untold Story. New York: Hachette Books. ISBN 978-1-4013-9652-7. Retrieved 2024-02-03 – via Google Books.

     The book notes: "The following night, in what still stands as the most awkward results show in Idol history, Christina was eliminated in absentia. Seacrest and Dunkleman read the results and looked into the camera, informing the singer in her hospital bed that her journey had ended. Christian's elimination came to the audience as something of a surprise, as she had been an early favorite, and given that Cowell's punching bag, Nikki, remained, the decision sparked the show's very first flurry of conspiracy talk. ... The theories tied to Christian's ouster were hazy and unfocused, but many alleged that the combination of the hospitalization and the surprise verdict were somehow too much to be believed. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer wrote, "Conspiracy theories abounded last week when judge fave Christina Christian was the latest contestant booted from American Idol. Add to the mystery that Christian wasn't even present to receive the news, cited as being ill and in the hospital" and Entertainment Weekly fumed, "Something is rotten in the state of Hollywood. How gullible do the producers of American Idol think we really are? Does anyone really believe the sultry Christina Christian got booted off? Yeah, right, like she got fewer votes than Nikki or RJ. I don't think so. Sorry.""

  3. Gonzalez, Erika (2002-11-11). "'Idol' Mindset - Promise-Premised Reality Hits Denver With Live Roadshow". Rocky Mountain News. Archived from the original on 2024-02-03. Retrieved 2024-02-03.

     The article notes: "Six months ago Christina Christian was a University of Florida senior and part-time mortgage consultant, trying to get through school while planning her upcoming nuptials. Today, she's an up-and-coming pop star negotiating her first record contract while touring the country in fast-selling arena shows."

  4. Tanasychuk, John (2002-08-10). "Not an Idol, but Pines Woman Maintains Winning Attitude". Sun Sentinel. Archived from the original on 2024-02-03. Retrieved 2024-02-03.

     The article notes: "On Tuesday night, Christian performed Glory of Love as part of the show's Big Band theme. More than 10 million viewers voted by phone. Christian lost. ... Christian became an American Idol almost on a whim. Last May, she was a full-time student and a full-time mortgage officer at SunTrust Bank. She heard about the audition in Miami, drove down and the rest is history. ... Christian's parents divorced when she was 14, but rather than differentiate between members of her blended family, she says she has two brothers (Earnest and Eric) and two sisters (Ashley and Nyxie)."

  5. Cohen, Howard (2002-11-16). "South Florida's Hot Shots". Billboard. p. 59. Retrieved 2024-02-03 – via Google Books.

     The article notes: "In terms of exposure, you can't be more exposed these days than young Christina Christian, the supple-voiced singer who charmed audiences this summer on the explosively popular American TV series, American Idol. Christian, 21, grew up in North Miami Beach and currently lives in nearby Pembroke Pines. She's on the road these days with nine of her fellow American Idol finalists on a lavish tour. She's also one of the 10 vocalists to lend her pipes to the recent RCA album American Idol: Greatest Moments. That's Christian singing Bill Withers' '70s classic, “Ain't No Sunshine," arguably the best track on the disc."

  6. Smolowe, Jill; Lipton, Mike; Helling, Steve; Rizzo, Monica; Atlas, Darla (2005-01-17). "Life After Idol". People. Vol. 63, no. 2. EBSCOhost 15587688.

     The article notes: "Christina Christian. Age: 23. Hometown: Gainesville, Fla. After doing a post-Idol tour through Europe, Christian became the first in her class to get hitched when she wed Nicholas Cewe, 24, her boyfriend of six years, last January. Christian appeared on Idol twice last season and covered the prior season for the TV Guide Channel. These days, she's writing songs, working on an album and dodging recognition. "I'm not a big fan of fame," she says."

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Christina Christian Cewe to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 10:46, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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