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The timeline appears to be in error. The University of Phoenix has been transitioning to online courses (and closing campuses and learning sites) for more than a decade. According to the Washington Post, Apollo Global Management has also been trying to sell of the school since 2019 if not earlier. [1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/03/31/university-phoenix-arkansas-deal-draws-scrutiny/ Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 00:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to be correct! I see a path that may work for now. I think having this pre-2020 instance roll into the section could be okay considering an acquisition would be seen as an important moment for that portion of the timeline. Also, given the increased media attention within the 2020's and the likelihood of a sale increasing, titling the 2020's section around the sale makes more sense to me. That being said, the future of titling the 2020's section will definitely depend on a sale actually taking place, instead of the months (technically years, according to that quote!) of speculation. I'm going to go ahead and re-title the timeline with what you've said in mind. 30Four (talk) 23:52, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 00:11, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should University of Phoenix be recognized for its name in popular culture? Saturday Night Live recently had a sketch with Keenan Thompson as a fictitious President of the University of Phoenix. [2]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/arts/television/saturday-night-live-adam-driver-olivia-rodrigo.html Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 21:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We need much more than one popular press source to support adding a section to an article. ElKevbo (talk) 21:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. There are several pop culture references over the years, including White Collar (2011), John Oliver (2014), the Simpsons (2017), and Family Guy (2020), but I would have to take time dredging them up. The recent SNL sketch, by the way, was mentioned in the NY Times, LA Times, NY Post, Rolling Stone, The Hill, and the Daily Beast. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 01:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What makes the University of Phoenix a private entity if it is part of a publicly traded company and it receives most of its money from the federal government? For the purpose of editing Wikipedia articles, is there a definition of what a private university is?

https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/2013/01/what-public-university-what-private-university

Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 19:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is that we follow the lead of reliable sources in this area, particularly materials published by scholars and experts. The US Department of Education classifies this institution as private and we generally use that as the deciding factor (in part, I think, because there are rarely disputes on this topic and everyone agrees with everyone else). The only exceptions in Wikipedia that I know about are the "state-related" institutions in Pennsylvania which were the subject of a long discussion a few years ago and the University of Delaware which makes claims about having a unique governance structure and relation to the state of Delaware. Cornell University also has some additional language in its article on this topic as part of the university is public (the agricultural school and other units associated with the university's land-grant status) while most of it is private. There has sometimes been a dispute about Grand Canyon University but my recollection is that has been solely about whether it's for-profit or nonprofit.

A longer answer is that public institutions in the U.S. are those that are directly controlled and governed by the state or federal government. Nearly all private institutions accept some kinds of state funding, including federal financial aid, which means that they must comply with many government laws and policies (a handful of institutions explicitly refuse to accept state funding so they don't have to comply with those laws and policies, especially those with extreme political or religious views whose practices would otherwise be unlawful). But they still have their own privately-appointed or -selected governing bodies so they're not public institutions. ElKevbo (talk) 20:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the clarification. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 21:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should we keep the data that the University of Phoenix is self reporting if it is significantly different than what appears in the NCES College Navigator? Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 01:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]