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I am well aware that this article is unformatted, incomplete and possibly biased (I can't spot my own bias, can I?). Please alter and improve! Totnesmartin 16:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

here's an interesting find... Doc shiels discussing how to set up a sea-serpent hoax in Falmouth Bay. [1] Have we been had? Totnesmartin 20:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have upgraded the WP:PARA classifcation rating for the article, based on concurrence Totnesmartin's own estimation. Any arguments on why the article should be returned to previous grading, or even classed higher, should be placed in this section. --Chr.K. 07:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why does british big cats link from here? - this cryptid is clearly marine. Also, although clearly this Shiels fellow has been setting some things up, why is the article (and therefore the whole myth) listed as a hoax and debunked within 3/5 categories? Anything pre-1976 isn't associated with Shiels and the most recent 3 'sightings' have no connection to him either. I say we take this off the "Debunked" list and keep the dream alive... ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by FloreatAntiquaDomus (talk • contribs) 03:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Point. We can keep the hoax category, because there was hoaxing in the seventies...debunked? Doesn't look like it, except to the "some of it's debunked, therefore all of it is" crowd. Totnesmartin (talk) 19:14, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is yet another article where cryptozoology has come to dominate the article to the point where it's unclear if a folk tradition exists beneath the cryptozoologist monster-hunting. Obviously, per WP:FRINGE and WP:PSEUDOSCIENCE, this isn't good. Are there non-self published sources that discusses this figure outside of a pseudoscientific context? If there's a genuine tradition beneath this and not just gotta-catch-em-all approach cooked up by internet cryptozoologists, then the article needs to be moved and rewritten. :bloodofox: (talk) 06:00, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The subject is firmly established as folklore. Sources [2] and [3] and [4] and [5] should get you started. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:35, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've done the suggested rewrite using the sources above, and moved the page from Morgawr (cryptid) to Morgawr (folklore). You can use my edits as a starting template for other cryptozoology-infested articles with similar problems. Regards, - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:00, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to do that. I know it's a pain to disentangle these. :bloodofox: (talk) 00:40, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]