Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 January 2025

In the lead section, can you add

…and lobbying[1]

i.e.:

“ADL is also known for its pro-Israel advocacy[5][6][4][7]and lobbying[2]

Advocacy and lobbying are distinct practices. Seahumidity (talk) 07:39, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: not sure how that is different from advocacy, cited source is also very weak if you're looking to use this specific word - it only uses lobby once, and it's a quote from a wiki editor. Cannolis (talk) 08:24, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Israel lobbying refers more to positions that align closely with Israel government policy, whereas Israel advocacy refers to positions that one believes are best for Israeli society—often dissenting from Israel’s government policy. There are many examples of how the ADL aligns closely with Israel government policy. The most recent one might be their letter protesting the American Academy of Pediatricians (AAP) for inquiring about Israel’s kidnapping of a Gaza hospital director and pediatrician, as well as the children under his care. Notice how closely the ADL’s position aligns with Israeli government policy.
https://www.adl.org/resources/letter/jewish-organizations-express-disappointment-over-american-academy-pediatrics
as compared to more neutral accounts by NBC https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-detention-kamal-adwan-hospital-raid-doctor-abu-safiya-gaza-rcna186224
or the AAP pediatricians themselves in their letter https://www.commondreams.org/news/hussam-abu-safiya-detention
But I repeat, this is just the latest example. There are many many others and it would take up too much space to cite every example I can find. So perhaps a different question can be asked: is there a case for not labeling them as part of the Israel lobby? Seahumidity (talk) 07:37, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I asked Perplexity Pro about it. this was the answer:
When discussing "lobbying," the term refers to efforts to influence government decision-making, which can include direct communication with legislators, advocating for or against specific legislation, or shaping public opinion to indirectly affect policy outcomes. Lobbying can take the form of direct government pressure (e.g., meetings with legislators or officials) or broader advocacy efforts (e.g., public campaigns or grassroots mobilization) aimed at influencing legislation and policy[1][3][6].
      1. How This Applies to the ADL
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) engages in lobbying activities that fit this definition, particularly in its advocacy for legislation and policies related to combating antisemitism, hate crimes, and supporting Israel. The clearest examples of the ADL's lobbying include:
1. **Legislative Advocacy**: The ADL has directly supported and lobbied for specific bills in Congress. For instance:
- The **Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023**, which seeks to codify a definition of antisemitism that includes certain criticisms of Israel, was one of the legislative efforts the ADL supported[4].
- The ADL also lobbied for the **Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act**, which expanded federal hate crime laws[2][12].
2. **Direct Engagement with Officials**: The ADL has communicated directly with government officials to influence policy. For example:
- In early 2023, ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt personally pressured Bard College’s president to cancel a course titled "Apartheid in Israel-Palestine," which the ADL opposed[2].
- The organization has also sent letters to college presidents urging investigations into student groups like Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), alleging ties to Hamas[2].
3. **Public Campaigns and Grassroots Advocacy**: Beyond direct lobbying, the ADL engages in public campaigns to shape opinions and influence policymakers indirectly. For instance:
- It played a key role in advocating for hate crime legislation by drafting model laws and mobilizing public support[12].
- The ADL has also launched campaigns like "Stop Hate for Profit," targeting social media platforms over hate speech policies[2].
4. **Expenditure on Lobbying**: Financial disclosures show that the ADL spent $1.07 million on lobbying in 2024 alone, a significant increase from previous years, reflecting its growing focus on influencing government decisions through formal lobbying channels[15].
In summary, the ADL engages in both direct lobbying—such as advocating for specific legislation and meeting with officials—and broader advocacy efforts aimed at shaping public opinion and policy. These activities align with standard definitions of lobbying and demonstrate how the organization uses its resources to influence government action on issues central to its mission.
Citations:
[1] https://www.britannica.com/topic/lobbying
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League
[3] https://ethics.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2018/02/chapter-1-lobbying-overview-and-definitions_0.pdf
[4] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/anti-defamation-league/lobbying?id=D000047168
[5] https://cleveland.adl.org/glass-young-leadership-session-3-blog-adls-lobbying-agenda-an-insiders-briefing-with-michael-lieberman/
[6] https://finance.emory.edu/home/financedivision/accounting/tax/lobbying-political-activities.html
[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbyist
[8] https://gcr.ufl.edu/federal-relations/lobbying/
[9] https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/lobbying
[10] https://www.fppc.ca.gov/learn/lobbyist-rules.html
[11] https://www.ncsl.org/ethics/how-states-define-lobbying-and-lobbyist
[12] https://www.adl.org/who-we-are/history
[13] https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/emmaia-gelman-anti-defamation-league/
[14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTTNMVz0CiQ
[15] https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/anti-defamation-league/summary?id=D000047168
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Answer from Perplexity: pplx.ai/share Seahumidity (talk) 01:45, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Potential source to add

  1. https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/numerous-anti-israel-wikipedia-editors-including-instigators-who-targeted
    1. (WP link note: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 5)

דברי.הימים (talk) 11:53, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

“Reception and Criticism” section requires rewriting in order to comply with WP:NPOV & WP:CSECTION

WP:CSECTION clearly states editors must refrain from writing sections focusing on criticisms or controversies.


At the very least the “and Criticism” portion of the section title must be removed to comply with WP:CSECTION writing guidelines as again, the page mentions editors must refrain from using words like “controversies” or “criticism” in the section title.


I suggest this change be made to bring the article inline with Wikipedia’s editing standards


Untitled02painting (talk) 02:38, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CSECTION is not part of Wikipedia’s editing standards. It's an essay rather than policy. Either way, I've removed the '...and X' because it's redundant. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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