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— [[User:Chrisahn|Chrisahn]] ([[User talk:Chrisahn|talk]]) 23:10, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
— [[User:Chrisahn|Chrisahn]] ([[User talk:Chrisahn|talk]]) 23:10, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

:Delete with extreme prejudice, as entirely PROMO. The reality is many of the businesses he now owns are in serious trouble, being removed from the shelves of multiples, his endorsements being cancelled as association with him is seen by most as a negative. Clearly with the possible exception of a band who have been unsigned for two years following their career highlight, being the opening act for a 90s band who reformed for a tour. [[User:Bastun|<span style="padding:3px;background:#ffa502;">Bastun</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Bastun|Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!]]</sup> 23:44, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 23:44, 6 March 2025

Category

I added Category:Irish rapists to the article. It was removed by Nswix because the finding was by a civil court. So, per WP:BRD, we reach "D". I say that the fact that he was found to have raped someone by a civil court and not a criminal court is immaterial. Effectively calling McGregor a rapist is not a breach of WP:BLP and that the category should be restored to the article. Mjroots (talk) 06:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Given that there is a subcategory of Category:Irish rapists called Category:Irish people convicted of rape, then yes, he should be added to the former. The trial, and reporting on the trial, outlined what he did (in graphic detail). He should also be added to Category:Irish sex offenders (which I'll now add him to). BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I note in an edit summary, Nswix said It was a civil suit, thrown out of criminal court. Completely incorrect, and Nswix appears to be unfamiliar with the Irish justice system. The allegation was investigated by Gardaí. They felt there was enough evidence to prosecute, and so referred a file to the Director of Public Prosecutions. Her office decided that there was not sufficient evidence to secure a criminal conviction "beyond all reasonable doubt", and elected not to proceed with a prosecution. Which, as we know, is very common in sexual assault and rape cases. That's a far cry from "was thrown out of criminal court." BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The case can't have been "thrown out of criminal court" if it never reached the criminal court in the first place. Mjroots (talk) 09:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He was convicted of rape in court and it was reported as such in reliable Irish news media. Spideog (talk) 11:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure that's accurate, Spideog. He wasn't convicted of rape in court, he was found liable by a civil court. NEDOCHAN (talk) 16:15, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus seems to be for inclusion of the category. I'll add it back. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:48, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jargon re "remanded"

In the Controversies section in the third paragraph under "Driving offences", the word "remanded" was tagged as jargon in the sentence beginning "He has not yet indicated a plea and the judge remanded". This word is frequently used in Irish media about court cases and while it is legal jargon the fact that it is used in media shows it is widely understood. Furthermore, in the previous sentence the phrase "remanded on continuing bail" links to the Wiktionary entry on remand. Should the jargon tag remain or be removed? Autarch (talk) 22:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove it now. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:14, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Autarch (talk) 02:57, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SA

Curious why under controversies a driving offense is the first topic and not How he brutality raped a women. 2401:7000:DD9B:B400:B07E:7A21:D9F0:BB94 (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of the controversies were added in chronological order, with subsequent driving offences added as they occurred. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cancel culture

Is it really appropriate to link the words "widely condemned" to the "Cancel Culture" page when it's in reference to his partners severing ties with him after he was found liable for rape? I have never seen this on any other page where a person has faced consequences after either being criminally convicted or losing a civil case for sexual assault. 2A01:4B00:8043:D300:C908:D3D8:97EC:87D1 (talk) 12:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)  Done. Wow! Good catch - removed! BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 17:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2024

Mcgregor is a convicted rapist, add this to his BIO and the outline of his case. Its wikipedia, not a PR page. Either you add ALL information or you admit to just be hypocrites. 2001:1C01:1380:3400:252C:FAB8:2809:1A77 (talk) 23:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A case is included in the lead and detailed in Conor_McGregor#Dublin_rape_case and Conor_McGregor#Aftermath. What additional information should be added? LizardJr8 (talk) 23:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A convict is someone who has been found guilty in a criminal court. McGregor did not get tried in a criminal court. 2A0A:EF40:15E:D401:A449:CC61:15BC:29AF (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is rape controversial?

Why is categorisation of sections in wiki so inconsistent?

Why are allegations and legal outcomes for Conor McGregor listed under a general “Controversies” section? Other notorious individuals like Harvey Weinstein have more specific and objective headings eg. “Sexual Abuse Accusations, Convictions, and Appeals.” The term “controversies” seems to downplay the gravity of the accusations compared to more precise headings directly referencing criminal behavior?

Isn’t Wikipedia meant to represent neutrality, accuracy, and fairness? Using objective and specific language, especially for serious legal matters, ensures clarity and avoids any perception of minimising or trivislising the severity of certain accusations… 86.27.117.163 (talk) 19:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey Weinstein is known almost exclusively for his sexual assault accusations. It's so prominent it has it's own page. McGregor was found liable in a civil suit that was dropped from a criminal case. It's apples and oranges. Nswix (talk) 19:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah the key term in that subheading on the Weinstein page is **Convictions**. 143.58.157.68 (talk) 14:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Surely rapist should be in the first paragraph, not hidden away.
It defines a person. 95.91.212.177 (talk) 23:18, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2025

Change the result of Conor McGregor vs Dustin Poirier 2 to a KO(punches) loss for Conor McGregor. 2603:8000:F000:FA:5D71:15F2:C85B:211C (talk) 23:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)  Not done: Citations needed (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 00:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rapist should be in the first paragraph

Why isn't it mentioned that he has over 20 convictions, and has been found guilty of rape until you read to the end of the article? It should be at the beginning. 95.91.212.177 (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of n word tweet

There's a disagreement regarding a recent addition relating to a post on X that used the n word. I would suggest that this info is unlikely to become notable any time soon and that this is a case to which to apply WP: NOTNEWS NEDOCHAN (talk) 01:58, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for opening the discussion. I would favour inclusion because there are events that become notable/notorious (no pun intended) in a person's life and/or career. Winning championships is one. Generally, being arrested, convicted, being sued, losing a civil claim, are all examples of others. A very public use of the n word, I would suggest, is another. It has been very widely covered in mainstream media: Google [Bing https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=conor+mcgregor+n-word&FORM=HDRSC7]. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:33, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean, I'd say don't include. Marvin Vettori used it the same day, no one cared. Because it's not really news... Nswix (talk) 13:54, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined not to include as I can't see this being a notable part of CM's story when all is said and done. The article is already very long, too. Perhaps if the story picks up and there are consequences it would be something to put in, but as it is it does seem like news.NEDOCHAN (talk) 16:43, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies?

Why are this man‘s crimes being called “controversies” when other pages use legal terminology for convicted criminals? Being convicted of raping a woman is not a controversy. Punching an old man in the face in front of witnesses is not a controversy. Call them what they are. 24.140.204.84 (talk) 03:19, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 March 2025

Correction: he is retired. 142.163.116.241 (talk) 17:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 21:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:PROMO content

I reverted this edit. The edit added the following sentence to the lead...

After the verdict, McGregor lost some partnership deals, but has since focused on his family, training, and philanthropy, while also expanding his business ventures, securing new partnerships, and growing his brand.

...and added the following paragraph to the Endorsements and sponsors section:

Despite these setbacks, McGregor has grown his business ventures, with several new partnerships and initiatives. In October 2024, he launched a cigar brand[1][2] and became a brand ambassador for both a protein popcorn snack[3][4] and Bucked Up energy drink[5][6]. In February 2025, McGregor signed the British girl group Sweet Love to his label, Greenback Records,[7] and made significant public appearances, including attending President Donald Trump's inauguration on January 19, 2025, and visited the families of 13 U.S. service members killed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan near Abbey Gate in Kabul.[8]

My reasons for reverting the edit:

The sentence added to the lead reads very much like WP:PROMO material, and it's mostly unsourced. How did the editor who wrote that sentence know that McGregor "focused on his family"? Did he actually "expand his business ventures" and "grow his brand"? All of these are rather dubious claims and full of WP:PEACOCK words.

The same goes for the first sentence of the added paragraph.

Parts of the rest of the paragraph might be OK, but most of the sources seem to be of rather low quality. I guess TMZ is the best among them, or maybe Sports Illustrated, but the Washington Reporter almost certainly isn't a WP:RS. Quote from their About page: We cover stories pushed by interested parties–including lobbyists or operatives with clients–as long as the content is true, fair, and insightful. [1]

I'm not sure which parts of the paragraph have lasting relevance for McGregor's biography. If there are any, they probably belong in other sections.

In summary: 1. The sentence added to the lead is mostly WP:PROMO. Not acceptable. 2. Maybe some parts of the paragraph can be salvaged, but only with better sources that indicate lasting relevance.

Chrisahn (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete with extreme prejudice, as entirely PROMO. The reality is many of the businesses he now owns are in serious trouble, being removed from the shelves of multiples, his endorsements being cancelled as association with him is seen by most as a negative. Clearly with the possible exception of a band who have been unsigned for two years following their career highlight, being the opening act for a 90s band who reformed for a tour. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:44, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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