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The data about Piranashahr are incorrect. Piranshahr is a small city in eastern Kurdistan,Iran, with a population much less than 100000. Piranshahr is a beautiful city in Kurdistan but there are some other larger and more important cities and issues that must be in this article before Piranshahr. Thanks

Hello! I can't find any reliable sources. Do you have any sources? ~ Zirguezi 21:36, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

I'm inviting editors to participate in the discussion to move the article 'Syrian Kurdistan' to 'Rojava'. My rationale is: This article is about a region governed by the PYD, which calls the area Rojava. Foreign press also uses this term, for example [1] (BBC) [2] (Guardian) [3] (Independent) [4] (VICE). Other examples on Wikipedia such as Kosovo (not South Serbia), Catalonia (not Catalonian Spain) or Scotland (not Scottish United Kingdom) indicate this article should be called Rojava as per convention. Thanks Genjix (talk) 19:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

commenting here, will have reliable source later when I have time. Possible sources

• world post column "President Masoud Barzani of Iraqi Kurdistan has pledged protection for Syrian Kurds from al-Nusra, a terrorist organization, which issued a fatwa calling for the killing of Kurdish women and children" - I think this is RS, will add later
• worldpost "Al-Nusra Front, Syria's Al-Qaeda affiliate, issued a fatwa condoning the killing of Kurdish women and children"
• ITN "A fatwa (edict) has been issued permitting the shedding of the blood of the Kurds and they called from the mosque loudspeakers that the shedding of the Kurdish blood is halal"
• Vice "al Nusra Front to declare fatwas against all Kurds" also
• israelnationalnews anti-Kurdish rhetoric has reached fever pitch among Arab Islamists, with some mosques issuing fatwas (religious decrees) encouraging the wholesale slaughter of Kurds

Will add line later-- Aronzak (talk) 03:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the infobox, when mentioning the four main areas of Kurdistan (North, South, East, and West), three of the flags given are the flags of political or military groups. In the case of Syrian Kurdistan, the use of the PYD flag is widespread in the actual region, so that might be justified, but do Turkish Kurds really fly the flag of Koma Civakên Kurdistan and do Iranian Kurds really use the flag of PJAK? Bulbajer (talk) 03:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We have had problems with people messing up the flags on this and related articles. A few people with Kurdish nationalist sympathies can't bear to see the name or the flag of another nation state on this and repeatedly switch articles to using various Kurdish flags and names like "Southern Kurdistan" over more recognised names like "Iraqi Kurdistan". They also prefer to write about Kurdistan as if it was already a nation state as if writing it enough will somehow make it true. I can understand this but we have no choice but to write Wikipedia in terms of currently recognised nation states as anything else is to mislead our readers. Besides, one can't edit reality by editing Wikipedia.

I think those flags are left over from an imperfect reversion of some of these understandable but misconceived edits. More or less the the same thing is going on at the very bottom of the article, although it is not 100% consistent with the flags in the infobox. I think this needs to be changed or reverted use the flags of the nation states involved, or maybe to have no flags at all, and to use the primary names the four articles, not some comforting alternatives. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:26, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As nobody else has said or done anything I have been bold and had a go myself. I am not sure if it is perfect but I think this edit is a step in the right direction: [5]. I think it achieves neutrality by using the primary names of each article (rather than any alternative names that might be conducive to some POVs and not others) and sticks to only using the official flags of recognised nation states. It also returns the box at the bottom to its presumed intended task of locating the subject of the article within its wider context by identifying its neighbours, rather than trying to show its own subregions.

How do we feel about this? Is this, or a tweaked variant of it, something we can agree on and defend against future POV editing or does it need a rethink? --DanielRigal (talk) 23:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdistan Does not exist and parts of this map is showing my country (turkey) being split. There is a Terrorist group currently murdering people in that region but no country other than Turkey or officially recognised countries. This page is incorrect and offensive as the region shown in South Eastern Turkey is a area where terror group PKK is active and killing Turkish soldiers. Therefore dividing a country that is not divided is incorrect. 2.121.172.222 (talk) 02:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Read the article first. The subject of the article exists and is clearly explained. -- haminoon (talk) 02:36, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A move discussion relating to this article is open at Kurdish languages' talk page. Khestwol (talk) 17:58, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The initial map is not correct and legal, please replace it for previouse true one and protect the article from vandalism Bazrangi (talk) 15:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't want to change it alone, but does this article really need seven citations for the ancient name in paragraph 1, of which six are never used anywhere else? 2602:306:32E1:92F0:E81F:4DC0:1246:6C52 (talk) 03:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do they need to be used somewhere else in the article? As long as they have legitimate sources they should stay there I think ~ Zirguezi 20:45, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a registered user and therefore cannot edit, so I request somebody to correct a few typos in the beginning. It says something like "the Iraqi kurd becom autom and they fight the ISIS" It seems as if somebody did this purposely.2601:CF:8100:8250:B9A2:10D:1D56:4C27 (talk) 20:49, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Anonymous[reply]

I don't see this. Has this been changed yet? ~ Zirguezi 20:47, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ezidxan shouldn't redirect here - it should be its own entry. Ezidxan is a land for Yezidis specifically, whether they are or are not included as ethnic Kurds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveodinkirk (talk • contribs) 13:43, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've found the correct redirection, but I don't know how to change it. Ezidxan should redirect to Ezidkhan; it's even described as an alternate name in the article.

Came here too to report this. Does anyone know how to edit redirecting links?--Ermanarich (talk) 17:29, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just checking in on this again. Sorry I'm not fluent enough in wiki mark-ups to fix it myself. Steveodinkirk (talk) 08:23, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a related page and changed the redirect of Ezidxan from Kurdistan to Ezidkhan. I've tried to flesh out the page and add more sources. You can find information about Exidxan there. Super! Steveodinkirk (talk) 09:02, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone advise as to whether the Wikiproject Kurdistan banner belongs on the main page or on the talk page. A bot removed it from the main page and said it belongs on the talk page, but I'm sure I have seen many articles with project banners on their main page.Jwslubbock (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the clarification. I'm a novice at using banners. SO. MANY. RULES. --Jwslubbock (talk) 21:47, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if anyone is interested, I added to the History of the Kurds article today and an anonymous IP address deleted everything I wrote, saying my source (Izady, a well known writer on Kurdish history) was unreliable. I opened a discussion on the talk page and would appreciate people saying whether they think it's an unfair reversion.--Jwslubbock (talk) 21:48, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If the argument is actually that the Kurds can be associated with 7000 year old sites and cultures, then I'd say that Izady doesn't belong there. Doug Weller talk 19:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I have reverted this as per WP:EXCESSDETAIL. The page does not need separate sections for every single animal species in the region. Catharsis of Mind (talk) 07:25, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Engish pronunciations are wrong. Whether you say "Kurdistann" or "Kurdistahn", the main stress in English is always on the first syllable. It is true that in Kurdish you say "kurdiSTAN", but in English you say "KURdistan". Please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.70.82 (talk) 17:29, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

PS: Correcting means to invert the little strokes at the top and at the bottom. That is [ˈkɜːrdɪˌstɑːn], [ˈkɜːrdɪˌstæn].

I just read this article, but don't see anything yet about it on wikipedia. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the subject to make an update, but it seemed relevant to this page. --Lasunncty (talk) 01:46, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is information about this at Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum, 2017 and also on Iraqi Kurdistan (although it hasn't been updated with results). Note this article also doesn't have any mention Iraqi Kurdistan independence referendum, 2005, my personal opinion it is too specific to the Kurds in Iraq, and too low impact to deserve mention here. GiovanniSidwell (talk) 18:19, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I want to include stuff about the recent Kurdistan independence referendum RuleCarolinnia (talk) 13:11, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kurdistan has a population of around 35 - 40 milion people. WcashOut (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is a claim that Turkey backs Al Nusra in the Syrian Civil War clause within the History section. Its reference is Ref. No:68. However in the reference it clearly states that Turkey denies it is helping to Al Nusra. Also the reference is a new from a newspaper and does not openly states that Turkey (with any found) clearly supports Al Nusra as it stated on this page as if it does. It cannot be known for sure whether Turkey's actions somehow indirectly have helped in any kind of measure Al Nusra, but the claim in this page and its reference do not align. Therefore herein statement Turkey backs Al Nusra in Syria is unfounded and should immediately be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.138.14.112 (talk) 07:45, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please add this map with description. I have no objection to modifying the description. I suggest adding it at the bottom of the right hand column of other maps.

Paulhundal (talk) 19:04, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]