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Scientific names of water

Some time ago [this edit] removed explication of the nomenclature used to derive the term dihydrogen monoxide. I wonder if anyone else thinks there is value in restoring any or all of the explication of the scientific naming conventions which are the origin of the name DHMO. Numerous sources were cited, so calling it original research is not quite accurate, is it? --JimWae (talk) 07:30, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Various names for water are commonly used within the scientific community. Some such names include hydrogen oxide, as well as an alkali name of hydrogen hydroxide, and several acid names such as hydric acid, hydroxic acid, hydroxyl acid, and hydroxilic acid. The term "hydroxyl acid" used in the original hoax is a non-standard name. An additional name, μ-oxido dihydrogen, has been developed for this compound.[1]
Under the 2005 revisions of IUPAC nomenclature of inorganic chemistry, there is no single correct name for every compound.[2] The primary function of chemical nomenclature is to ensure that each name refers, unambiguously, to a single substance. It is considered less important to ensure that each substance should have a single name, although the number of acceptable names is limited.[2] Water is one acceptable name for this compound, even though it is neither a systematic nor an international name and is specific to just one phase of the compound. The other IUPAC recommendation is oxidane.[3]
The use of numerical prefixes is typical nomenclature for compounds formed by covalent bonds, which are present in water.[4][5] The prefix for the first named element is often dropped if the elements involved commonly form only one compound, or even if the number of atoms of the first-named element is the same in all the compounds of the two (or more) elements.[6] Thus H2S is often simply called hydrogen sulfide, and lithium oxide is a common name for Li2O. However, the names dihydrogen sulfide,[7] dilithium oxide,[8] and dilithium monoxide[9] are also commonly used both in industry and in universities, even though Li2O is ionic.
The "mono-" prefix is often dropped for the second-named element if it is the only common compound the elements form.[10] Thus for instance the IUPAC name of H2S is hydrogen sulfide rather than hydrogen monosulfide.[11] However, since carbon and oxygen can form several compounds (carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, tricarbon dioxide, and dicarbon monoxide), the mono- prefix is kept, as it is with silicon monoxide and silicon dioxide. Indeed, hydrogen and oxygen do form another common compound, H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide). Using prefix nomenclature, H2O2 would be called dihydrogen dioxide. Thus, keeping the "mono-" in dihydrogen monoxide could in principle serve to distinguish it from another compound.

References

  1. ^ "/www.bluelaketec.com". Bluelake Technologies. Retrieved 2010-04-02.
  2. ^ a b IUPAC Report: General Aims, Functions and Methods of Chemical Nomenclature (March 2004) http://www.iupac.org/reports/provisional/abstract04/RB-prs310804/Chap1-3.04.pdf
  3. ^ Leigh, G. J. et al. 1998. Principles of chemical nomenclature: a guide to IUPAC recommendations, p. 99. Blackwell Science Ltd, UK. ISBN 0-86542-685-6
  4. ^ Leigh, G. J. et al. 1998. Principles of chemical nomenclature: a guide to IUPAC recommendations, p. 28. Blackwell Science Ltd, UK. ISBN 0-86542-685-6.
  5. ^ Nishiura, James, "Polar Covalent Bonds", Biology 4, City University of New York.
  6. ^ Cite error: The named reference nomenclature was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  7. ^ Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, Dihydrogen sulfide (PDF), California Environmental Protection Agency.
  8. ^ Diagnostics on calculations: Species with negative natural orbital occupation numbers, National Institutes of Health
  9. ^ Lithium oxide, PubChem public chemical database
  10. ^ Leigh, G. J. et al. 1998. Principles of chemical nomenclature: a guide to IUPAC recommendations, p. 28. Blackwell Science Ltd, UK. ISBN 0-86542-685-6: "The multiplicative prefixes may not be necessary if the oxidation states are explicit or are clearly understood."
  11. ^ Hydrogen sulfide, PubChem public chemical database.
I think this is interesting and useful stuff and would not object to its return. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 11:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's interesting, but seems like a WP:OR tangent to suggest that it's relevant. A "hydroxilic acid" hoax would have presumably had just as much impact. --McGeddon (talk) 21:10, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Scientific literacy"

QUOTE "It illustrates how the lack of scientific literacy". No it don't! The word is not in the mainstream of thought. Water is called water, Aqua and its scientific term is H2O. That word, Dihydrogen monoxide is not used so you can't call people illiterate not to know a highly technical term. --24.177.0.156 (talk) 20:58, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The point is not that people don't know what "dihydrogen monoxide" is. The point is that it is easy to fool the naive, even when correctly (though misleadingly) describing the properties of the compound. Compare the Food Babe treatment of "yoga mat compound"; whether it is harmless or not, it is an emotional, not a scientific, argument to mention that it is used both in bread dough and in yoga mats. --Macrakis (talk) 21:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia

Does the existence of this article make it less likely that the hoax can be perpetrated?Rathfelder (talk) 23:32, 19 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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