I'm just curious why a category was added to this template. It seems like the Special:Whatlinkshere method to find speedy delete pages works just fine as is.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 16:06, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I removed it from the category--it makes it seem like a vandal has put it in the category to try and trick sysops into deleting it.--naryathegreat 20:01, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

I now know why. This causes it to add the category to the bottom of the page and place it on the CAT:CSD page. Otherwise this amounts to nothing. I have almost single handedly destroyed this functionality. OH well, back to basics I guess.--naryathegreat 22:29, Jul 23, 2004 (UTC)

True or false: we need a voting poll on whether this template's name should be delete or trash. — 66.245.89.140 16:45, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Trash is POV. — Eequor 18:11, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

So are “patent nonsense” and “vandalism”. Doesn't stop you from using them. — i386 | Talk 18:15, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No one puts {{patentnonsense}} or {{vandalism}} on articles. — Ardonik.talk() 18:39, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)

Edit histories: Revert vandalism. Deletion log User:Sysop deleted jfad;ofh (patent nonsense) IMO you shouldn't endorse some potentially POV terms but not others. — i386 | Talk 18:56, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

False, the name doesn't matter. — SS 01:16, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Moot question, now that a vote has already occurred. The strong consensus on VfD is to keep this template named "delete" instead of the potentially offensive "trash". See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Template:Trash. • Benc • 23:47, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The word “trash” has two different meanings. The first meaning, obviously, is garbage. But when used in a technology context, the word “trash” means “deleted items” (e.g. The Macintosh trash can, the Windows recycle bin. Since Template:Trash redirects here, though, you can use whichever word you want. Personally, I strongly support “Trash”. — i386 | Talk 18:15, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

"Trash" as a metaphor for the recycle bin? That's really stretching it. As I see it, putting {{trash}} on an article says "this article is trash." In some cases, this may be true, but it's still POV. Putting {{speedy}} or {{delete}} on an article doesn't make a value judgement about its content. I endorese the latter two above the former. — Ardonik.talk() 18:39, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)

Stretching it? How? The Macintosh's "Recycle bin" has always been called trash, and that's how I interpret this template name. Though, like I said, it doesn't matter, becuase anyone can use whatever they want. — i386 | Talk 18:56, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

33451 is correct, the name for the Mac deletion facility has always been the Trash can (in the US versions of the OS, in the British edition it used to be called the Wastebasket IIRC). Delete == "Move to Trash", "Empty the Trash", etc. That said, {{delete}} is a name that works just fine, I see no reason to change it, and thus no reason to have a vote. — David Remahl 10:16, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, trash is potentially offensive, but I suppose the Mac crowd could use it if that's what they're used to—the "delete" function is called "Move to Trash"—but I support "Delete" myself. — El Chico 12:14, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

It has been suggested that the speedy deletions template should include an image, to improve its appearance. Please indicate your preference in the following poll. This poll will last two weeks (until August 20, 2004 at 00:00:00 UTC). Its results shall be binding; if there is majority support for an image, one shall be included in the template; if there is majority opposition, the template shall remain free of images.

The proposed templates are
Those found at User:Squash/Templates, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Template:Delete&oldid=5020419and http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Template:Delete&oldid=4959212.

The speedy deletions template would look better with an image.

1. Eequor
2. blankfaze | (беседа!) 19:21, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
3. squash 03:39, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)
4. — Tasty Sandwich | Talk 14:30, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
5. The poll has closed, but I didn't know about the existence of this page. (That's no excuse; I'm fully aware that my vote doesn't count.) That said, I thought the "X" icon that was briefly on Template:Delete looked pretty nice, and that includiung the image would harm no one. It's not like it will be placed on articles seen by thousands of people. --Ardonik.talk() 04:25, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

The speedy deletions template would look better without an image.

1. Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:25, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC) (what's the point?)
2. Goobergunch 22:48, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC) (Unneccessary, and it would probably just increase server lag.)
3. Angela. An image is completely over the top for articles which are often only a few words long.
4. Adam Bishop 07:41, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC) (these articles shouldn't be around long enough for anyone to enjoy looking at an image)
5. Fennec (はさばくのきつね) 00:02, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC) (It's not that it'd look better, it's just that there's no point in it looking good)
6. Twinxor 07:32, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC) (would just clutter things up for no reason)

Considering that speedy deletions pages could make up only a tiny fraction of the millions of requests per day, I doubt there would be any measurable effect on Wikipedia's speed. Between browser and server caching, the amount of extra data transferred would also be marginal. The site seems to do okay with a Wikipedia logo on every page. --Eequor 00:03, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Idea implemented at Template:Deletebecause. Original discussion moved to Template talk:Deletebecause. • Benc • 01:40, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

there are various other shortcuts to the delete template, e.g.

e.g. template:speedy, template:del, it might be possible to have template:nonsense? Dunc_Harris|☺ 08:26, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I suppose that would make it easier than typing {{deletebecause|this page likely qualifies as patent nonsense}}. But please, for the sake of WikiLove and all that is holy, let's ensure:

1. It's worded as diplomatically as possible.
2. It looks exactly like {{delete}} except for the reason blurb.
3. It's only used for articles that are, in fact, patent nonsense according to the objective, narrow definition on Wikipedia:Patent nonsense.

I'm the one who listed Template:Insane on VfD [1] (it was deleted). I listed it because failed on all three of the above concerns: (1) the wording left a lot to be desired ("The sanity of this article is disputed"); (2) no one suggested making it look like {{delete}} — if someone had, I would've withdrawn my vote; and (3) it was used as a subjective (and offensive) comment on articles that were not candidates for speedy deletion.

Anyway, let's work out a wording that will not inspire authors of patent nonsense to embark on a crusade of vengeance. Please make any edits to the wording at Template:Nonsense you see fit. • Benc • 22:37, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Based on a long conversation on this page, User:Benc created Template:Deletebecause which encourages users to document their reason for nominating the article as a speedy. I am going to mark this template as deprecated and reference people to the other template. Rossami 20:27, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The template is still catching on; it might be a couple weeks premature to deprecate this tag. Also, if we do plan on making the "because" parameter mandatory, we can just merge/redirect from Template:Deletebecause. (Usage: {{delete|reason goes here}}.)

Side note, giving credit where due: User:Mike Storm and I came up with this idea simultaneously and independently, within a couple days of each other. • Benc • 21:11, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)