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I have noticed that in taxoboxes and lists of species or other taxa there is no consistent usage (or non-usage) of parentheses for the species authority. Species in the same list are being displayed as "''Species genus'' (Name year)" with and without the parentheses. It seems the vast majority of taxoboxes do not have parentheses, and I think this makes sense since the species and authority are on separate lines within each box. On pages such as ''[[Dytiscus]]'' and ''[[Cybister]]'', among many others, there is an inconsistent mix of both uses. So what is the proper way to display species authority, or what should it be if this has not been decided yet? Or should the authority even be included in lists? [[User:Fredlyfish4|Fredlyfish4]] ([[User talk:Fredlyfish4|talk]]) 14:36, 21 December 2014 (UTC) |
I have noticed that in taxoboxes and lists of species or other taxa there is no consistent usage (or non-usage) of parentheses for the species authority. Species in the same list are being displayed as "''Species genus'' (Name year)" with and without the parentheses. It seems the vast majority of taxoboxes do not have parentheses, and I think this makes sense since the species and authority are on separate lines within each box. On pages such as ''[[Dytiscus]]'' and ''[[Cybister]]'', among many others, there is an inconsistent mix of both uses. So what is the proper way to display species authority, or what should it be if this has not been decided yet? Or should the authority even be included in lists? [[User:Fredlyfish4|Fredlyfish4]] ([[User talk:Fredlyfish4|talk]]) 14:36, 21 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:{{reply|Fredlyfish4}} While not very obvious, the parentheses around the author citation indicate that this was not the original taxonomic placement (see [[Author citation (zoology)]]). For example, ''[[Cybister lateralimarginalis]]'' was originally described in 1774 by De Geer as ''Dytiscus lateralimarginalis'', but was later moved to ''Cybister'', hence the extra set of parentheses in the new name. Personally, I prefer to include author citations in lists and taxoboxes, but not in running text. Cheers, [[User:Jonkerz|jonkerz]] ♠[[User talk:Jonkerz|talk]] 20:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC) |
:{{reply|Fredlyfish4}} While not very obvious, the parentheses around the author citation indicate that this was not the original taxonomic placement (see [[Author citation (zoology)]]). For example, ''[[Cybister lateralimarginalis]]'' was originally described in 1774 by De Geer as ''Dytiscus lateralimarginalis'', but was later moved to ''Cybister'', hence the extra set of parentheses in the new name. Personally, I prefer to include author citations in lists and taxoboxes, but not in running text. Cheers, [[User:Jonkerz|jonkerz]] ♠[[User talk:Jonkerz|talk]] 20:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC) |
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::What Jonkerz said. As there is a rule for when parentheses should be present, you'll see a mix on Wikipedia of authorities with and without parentheses. What should be consistent is following the usage of reliable sources for the presence or absence of parentheses for a particular species. Many editors aren't aware of the rules for including parentheses with authority citations, so there are sometimes cases where parentheses should be present, but are missing (I've never seen parentheses added where they don't belong, but I suppose that might happen occasionally as well). [[User:Plantdrew|Plantdrew]] ([[User talk:Plantdrew|talk]]) 21:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC) |
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Dragonfly common names
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Parenthesis and species authority
I have noticed that in taxoboxes and lists of species or other taxa there is no consistent usage (or non-usage) of parentheses for the species authority. Species in the same list are being displayed as "Species genus (Name year)" with and without the parentheses. It seems the vast majority of taxoboxes do not have parentheses, and I think this makes sense since the species and authority are on separate lines within each box. On pages such as Dytiscus and Cybister, among many others, there is an inconsistent mix of both uses. So what is the proper way to display species authority, or what should it be if this has not been decided yet? Or should the authority even be included in lists? Fredlyfish4 (talk) 14:36, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Fredlyfish4: While not very obvious, the parentheses around the author citation indicate that this was not the original taxonomic placement (see Author citation (zoology)). For example, Cybister lateralimarginalis was originally described in 1774 by De Geer as Dytiscus lateralimarginalis, but was later moved to Cybister, hence the extra set of parentheses in the new name. Personally, I prefer to include author citations in lists and taxoboxes, but not in running text. Cheers, jonkerz ♠talk 20:57, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
- What Jonkerz said. As there is a rule for when parentheses should be present, you'll see a mix on Wikipedia of authorities with and without parentheses. What should be consistent is following the usage of reliable sources for the presence or absence of parentheses for a particular species. Many editors aren't aware of the rules for including parentheses with authority citations, so there are sometimes cases where parentheses should be present, but are missing (I've never seen parentheses added where they don't belong, but I suppose that might happen occasionally as well). Plantdrew (talk) 21:15, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
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