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Hello. I invite you to [[Help_talk:IPA_for_Dutch_and_Afrikaans#Current_state_of_this_guide_is_unacceptable|this discussion]] about changes to [[Help:IPA for Dutch and Afrikaans]]. — [[User:Peter238|Peter238]] ([[User talk:Peter238#top|v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊]]) 12:02, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Hello. I invite you to [[Help_talk:IPA_for_Dutch_and_Afrikaans#Current_state_of_this_guide_is_unacceptable|this discussion]] about changes to [[Help:IPA for Dutch and Afrikaans]]. — [[User:Peter238|Peter238]] ([[User talk:Peter238#top|v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊]]) 12:02, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

== Micha ==

Hi Kwami,

It's the same language, just that the AsiaHarvest entry and the Ethnologue entry give different information.
http://www.ethnologue.com/language/yiq
http://asiaharvest.org/wp-content/themes/asia/docs/people-groups/China/chinaPeoples/M/Micha.pdf

Plus I was at the WikiMania 2014 conference in London and met a few Wiki members, but I don't think you were there?

— [[User:Stevey7788|Stevey7788]] ([[User talk:Stevey7788|talk]]) 20:18, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Ouranian-Barbaric

Hello Kwamikagami. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ouranian-Barbaric, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 21:25, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is not gibberish is useful information--called phonetic spelling-- from a cited source. You may not remove text just because of personal opinions or WP:OR.

See Template:Respell. tahc chat 05:10, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the template you're referring too. The respellings are unintelligeble and fail verification. The ref gives the Hebrew pronunciations, and we don't substitute foreign pronunciations with English, especially when the "English" is undefined or violates English phonotactics. — kwami (talk) 05:11, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Biblical clothing. tahc chat 05:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your recent edit to Wantagh, New York

Hello there. I noticed that earlier you removed the pronunciation key from the lead section of Wantagh, New York. If my username doesn't give it away, I'm a native of Wantagh and I can personally tell you that the overwhelming majority of people I have met in my lifetime who are unfamiliar with the community have no idea how to correctly pronounce its name. Thus, I'm inclined to revert your edit, but I'm sure you have your reasons as to why you edited as you did, and I would really love to hear those reasons before I act. All the best. WantaghNY (talk) 07:15, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree we should have it, but the transcription we had was not possible for English – unless maybe it was meant as the local accent, which wouldn't help outsiders. Which common words have those vowels, and do speakers distinguish 'cot' from 'caught'? — kwami (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
When 'Wantagh' is broken down phonetically, 'Wan' has the same vowel sound as 'on', and '-tagh' has the same vowel sound as 'saw'. I did notice in the most recent revision history on the article that someone changed the respelling of the second syllable from '-TAW' to '-TAHW', and I'm not entirely sure why because that only adds to the confusion. As to the second part of your question, that can vary by individual speaker, but most distinguish between 'cot' and 'caught' by their standard English pronunciations. WantaghNY (talk) 20:58, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that was part of it. Maybe they were trying to correct from a "law" vowel to a "spa" vowel? Would the "spa" vowel be wrong in both syllables, or not distinct? — kwami (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The 'spa' vowel is always correct for the first syllable. For the second syllable, a small handful of people may use the 'spa' vowel but much more commonly and properly the 'law' vowel is used. Those vowels are certainly distinct. WantaghNY (talk) 23:34, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm going to assume that it's the 'on' vowel rather than the 'spa' vowel for those who make a distinction, since that's how 'a' after 'w' is normally pronounced (e.g. 'wand').
Which syllable is stressed? It looks like s.o. intended the -tagh, and it displayed as the Wan- by mistake. — kwami (talk) 01:38, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The "Wan-" syllable is stressed. WantaghNY (talk) 04:26, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A cupcake for you!

Thought you'd like it! Redflorist (talk) 00:37, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation

Hello. I invite you to this discussion about changes to Help:IPA for Dutch and Afrikaans. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 12:02, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Micha

Hi Kwami,

It's the same language, just that the AsiaHarvest entry and the Ethnologue entry give different information. http://www.ethnologue.com/language/yiq http://asiaharvest.org/wp-content/themes/asia/docs/people-groups/China/chinaPeoples/M/Micha.pdf

Plus I was at the WikiMania 2014 conference in London and met a few Wiki members, but I don't think you were there?

Stevey7788 (talk) 20:18, 7 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]