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Big Brother and the Holding Company's 'Cheap Thrills' is not a compilation album, by our common definition of that term. Also, Elvis Presley is inaccurately referred to as a contemporary of Del Rey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.80.156.7 (talk) 03:50, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The interview that's available online that references the cult leader says she 'considered joining' the cult, not that she was part of it. Also since Lana is a character and not Lizzie herself, can we also consider this part of the 'mythology' of Lana (since beyond naming a 'cult' there's no further back up for it, ie. name of cult, leader, people, etc) and make it less of a concrete fact? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarcastathon (talk • contribs) 23:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have the magazine that is used as a source for that sentence. Here is her statement in German:

"Ich gehörte mal zu einer Underground-Szene, die von einem Guru beherrscht wurde. Der umgab sich mit jungen Mädchen und hatte eine Wahnsinnsausstrahlung, der auch ich mich nicht entziehen konnte. Ich war also bei dieser, ich nenne es mal Sekte, weil ich mich nach Liebe unde Geborgenheit sehnte. Aber dann stellte ich irgendwann fest, dass dieser Guru kein guter, sondern ein böser Mensch ist. Er fand, dass man Leute erst brechen muss, um sie wieder aufzubauen. Am Ende stieg ich aus."

And here is my translation:

"I used to belong to this underground scene that was ruled by a guru. He surrounded himself with young girls and had an amazing presence even I couldn’t resist. So I was in this, let me call it a cult, because I longed for love and security. But someday I realised that this guru wasn’t a good, but a bad, person. He felt like you needed to break people down to build them back up. At the end I got out."

How do you know that "Lana Del Rey" is a character and this story is fictional? She says it like it really happened to her so that's how we need to write it. Littlecarmen (talk) 13:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She was never in a cult. That's clearly defined in the New York Times source. Which I would find more credible. Which source do you think people are going to read? The one in English or the one in German? It says: "The lyrics also mention a “cult leader,” and Ms. Del Rey said the song looked back to a time soon after she moved to New York City, when she considered following a guru who “believed in breaking you down to build you back up again" http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/arts/music/lana-del-rey-still-stirs-things-up-with-ultraviolence.html?_r=1 Cheers!2601:4:1500:C90:F8CF:BCB5:9098:73D4 (talk) 02:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the German interview, she very clearly says she did belong to an "underground scene" which she called a cult. The German interview directly quotes her while the New York Times article paraphrased whatever she told them. Both sources are credible. They both conducted interviews with her. I actually find the German interview more important as a source since she is directly quoted. This should not be ignored just because The New York Times is more well-known than Grazia. Littlecarmen (talk) 09:11, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, New York Times reporter Jon Pareles conducted an interview with her himself.

https://www.facebook.com/lanadelrey?filter=3

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/27/popcast-lana-del-rey-downcast-superstar/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/722588/lana-del-reys-love-for-death/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/lana-del-rey-wish-dead_n_5491375.html

On her facebook page, she refers to his article as being the truth. Has she made any statement that the quotes in Grazia are the truth? I have removed the quote until sources are confirmed one way or another. Dkspartan1 (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know he conducted an interview. I never said he didn't. I was just saying that her Grazia statement is a direct quote and the NYT paraphrased whatever she said in the interview. Unless Del Rey says otherwise, every statement of hers in every interview must be seen as the truth. Littlecarmen (talk) 17:33, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I was saying is that the cult leader isn't named, an actual time period isn't named, the guru isn't named. I understand she said it in an interview and I'm not saying you have to take it out, just that maybe it's a good idea to change the wording of the sentence as it is all quite vague and nebulous as a statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.122.15.110 (talk) 20:21, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the new Rolling Stone article, it's written that she is 29 years old (not 28) and is often reported to be a year younger. Is this finally a reputable source that can be used to back up the correct information? See 3rd paragraph in image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs03DStIAAAOV7z.jpg 84.30.93.169 (talk) 12:59, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While there was sufficient evidence of this before that other Wikipedians chose to dismiss, this is exactly the kind of evidence—a well-known reputable secondary source citing her correct age and noting reports of her being a year younger are incorrect—they said would be required to warrant changing it when I lobbied for this in the past (see here). Now that we have this, it's time to change her age to the correct age of 29 and her birth year to the correct year of 1985, citing this Rolling Stone article as well as the Domain Name Journal, Adirondack Daily, and Blurt magazine sources mentioned in the talk history I linked. However, I'd hesitate to use any of the other sources I'd listed there with her correct age. They are right for the same reason all the other sources are wrong: a feedback loop. They were written during brief periods of time when her Wikipedia article was edited to reflect her correct birth date, proof positive of the feedback loop effect that has been going on here. Evilentity1 (talk) 15:17, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The correct birth year of 1985 along with Rolling Stone, Domain Name Journal, and Blurt as sources, has been added to the article. I didn't add Adirondack Daily because you need a subscription to see the content and we have enough other sources. Littlecarmen (talk) 18:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! FYI, the Adirondack Daily source is archived here. Evilentity1 (talk) 15:12, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a short follow-up piece by the author of that Rolling Stone interview about "her real age" that says she "just turned 29 – not 28, as it's usually reported". I'd add these myself, but I've never edited an article page before, just talk pages. Evilentity1 (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

she is 27 years old not 29. the brith date is wrong. it was correct a few days ago so somebody changed it recently.

See the section above you. She was born on June 21, 1985, and is 29 years old. Littlecarmen (talk) 11:38, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Under the "Career" heading, subsection "2011–13: Born to Die, Paradise, and Tropico," Paragraph 3, it says "Ride" became available for purchase on September 25, 2013. Shouldn't that be 2012, since that's when the "Paradise" EP was released? Bnewall1 (talk) 06:30, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Littlecarmen (talk) 09:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There should be mention about music produced by different record labels, I think it is and it will be very important. Interscope is a label related to the perverse crap Atlantic Records, so it is Warner and so it is bloody AOL. The other label is Polydor. Nothing really bad to say about this label but I really suggest that there is a simple mention on a separate paragraph about the record labels. I don't want to talk about politics and economy but for sure as a music addict since the Punk Rock era (70-80s) I can say that the "world" will be cut in two so in that way, Mrs. Del Rey is maybe playing (or not...) with that fact. No more comment. Thank you for your consideration and attention! — Hydrocarbonic 22:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC) [reply]

Can the entire page be proof read. Her name is Lana Del Rey and not Ray. It says Lana Del Ray in the known a space too and throughout the document. Jamiehenriques12 (talk) 20:33, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done, no changes necessary. She did release her first album with the spelling Ray, so that is correct to refer to the album and her during that time period. —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]