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" Milošević denounced the declaration of independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina from Yugoslavia in 1992, and said that "Bosnia and Herzegovina was illegally proclaimed as an independent state and recognized. That recognition was like when the Roman Emperor Caligula appointed his horse as a Senator: they recognized a state that never existed before. The Serbs there said, 'We want to stay within Yugoslavia. We don't want to be second-class citizens.' And then the conflicts were started by Muslims, no doubt. And the Serbs, in defending themselves, were always better fighters, no doubt. And they achieved results, no doubt. But please, we were insisting on peace. The international community gave premature recognition first of Slovenia and then of Croatia and supported the independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina on a totally irregular basis." " Whoever inserted this crap has very poor English skills, and the statements are childish. What a mess . . . 23:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC) |
" Milošević denounced the declaration of independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina from Yugoslavia in 1992, and said that "Bosnia and Herzegovina was illegally proclaimed as an independent state and recognized. That recognition was like when the Roman Emperor Caligula appointed his horse as a Senator: they recognized a state that never existed before. The Serbs there said, 'We want to stay within Yugoslavia. We don't want to be second-class citizens.' And then the conflicts were started by Muslims, no doubt. And the Serbs, in defending themselves, were always better fighters, no doubt. And they achieved results, no doubt. But please, we were insisting on peace. The international community gave premature recognition first of Slovenia and then of Croatia and supported the independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina on a totally irregular basis." " Whoever inserted this crap has very poor English skills, and the statements are childish. What a mess . . . 23:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC) |
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[[:Slobodan Milošević]] → {{no redirect|Slobodan Milosevic}} – This person is known as Slobodan Milosevic in English. It is the policy of English Wikipedia to use the [[WP:COMMMONNAME|common name]] the person in English sources. There is no question that Milošević is not the common spelling in reliable English-language sources. There are dozens of whole books devoted to the subject which use the spelling without diacritics perhaps hundreds of times. In fact, you will have a hard time finding sources which use the spelling with diacritics despite the incredible popularity of the subject. see [[WP:AT]]. Whatever the correct spelling in some other language or transliteration scheme, it is the policy here to [[WP:UE|use English]]. See also [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)]] which states, "do not substitute a systematically transliterated name for the common English form of the name". [http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/slobodan_milosevic/index.html The New York Times], an actual authority on correct English, uses the non-marked spelling exclusively, maybe hundreds of times, just like every other English-language source except, bizarrely, [http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/383076/Slobodan-Milosevic Encyclopedia Britannica]. I could make a list of sources using the spelling I propose, or you could just look at literally ANY source in English other than WP and Britannica. - [[User:Metal.lunchbox|Metal lunchbox]] <sup>([[user talk:metal.lunchbox|talk]])</sup> 23:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC) |
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How do you pronounce his name?
I personally pronounce it /slɔbəˈdaːn məlɔʃəvɪt͡ʃ/. In E. Peterbus Unum, Peter Griffin pronounces it /slɔʉbəˈdɑːn/ (his last name is not used). Is there a standard pronunciation? FokkerTISM 10:21, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
- "bo" is stressed, not "dan". Both of you are pronouncing it wrong. /sləˈbɔːdən məˈlɔːʃəvɪtʃ/ is the closest equivalent I can think of, as far as Received Pronunciation (and vowel reduction in it) is concerned. --89.79.88.96 (talk) 21:43, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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Nothing about the Beobank robbery
Milosevic, along with his accomplices stole over USD20.000.000.000/GBP13.000.000.000 from peoples' savings in state owned banks such as Beobanka, Jugobanka. I wonder how come there is not a single thing about the heist on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.86.93.172 (talk) 10:06, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
just one example of the problems with this article
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" Milošević denounced the declaration of independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina from Yugoslavia in 1992, and said that "Bosnia and Herzegovina was illegally proclaimed as an independent state and recognized. That recognition was like when the Roman Emperor Caligula appointed his horse as a Senator: they recognized a state that never existed before. The Serbs there said, 'We want to stay within Yugoslavia. We don't want to be second-class citizens.' And then the conflicts were started by Muslims, no doubt. And the Serbs, in defending themselves, were always better fighters, no doubt. And they achieved results, no doubt. But please, we were insisting on peace. The international community gave premature recognition first of Slovenia and then of Croatia and supported the independence of Bosnia and Herzegovina on a totally irregular basis." " Whoever inserted this crap has very poor English skills, and the statements are childish. What a mess . . . 23:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC) |
Requested move 08 September 2014
Slobodan Milošević → Slobodan Milosevic – This person is known as Slobodan Milosevic in English. It is the policy of English Wikipedia to use the common name the person in English sources. There is no question that Milošević is not the common spelling in reliable English-language sources. There are dozens of whole books devoted to the subject which use the spelling without diacritics perhaps hundreds of times. In fact, you will have a hard time finding sources which use the spelling with diacritics despite the incredible popularity of the subject. see WP:AT. Whatever the correct spelling in some other language or transliteration scheme, it is the policy here to use English. See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) which states, "do not substitute a systematically transliterated name for the common English form of the name". The New York Times, an actual authority on correct English, uses the non-marked spelling exclusively, maybe hundreds of times, just like every other English-language source except, bizarrely, Encyclopedia Britannica. I could make a list of sources using the spelling I propose, or you could just look at literally ANY source in English other than WP and Britannica. - Metal lunchbox (talk) 23:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
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