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Artavas has been deleting Tabriz, and that with a purpose, claiming lack of source which is untrue. An MIT document has been provided as reference which states Nima's father, Jafargholi Arkani-Hamed is from Tabriz. But since Artavas is an Armenian, he doesn't like Tabriz, an Azerbaijani-speaking city, to be mentioned. While Tabriz has an Armenian community itself, Artavas has, in most likelihood, a Dashnak agenda which revolves around enmity which anything Azerbaijani.
Artavas has been deleting Tabriz, and that with a purpose, claiming lack of source which is untrue. An MIT document has been provided as reference which states Nima's father, Jafargholi Arkani-Hamed is from Tabriz. But since Artavas is an Armenian, he doesn't like Tabriz, an Azerbaijani-speaking city, to be mentioned. While Tabriz has an Armenian community itself, Artavas has, in most likelihood, a Dashnak agenda which revolves around enmity with anything Azerbaijani.
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/58240/29576858.pdf?sequence1
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/58240/29576858.pdf?sequence1
On page -lv- of BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE, it states: The author was born on February 2, 1940, in Tabriz, Iran. He attended elementary and high schools in Tabriz before receiving Engineering
On page -lv- of BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE, it states: The author was born on February 2, 1940, in Tabriz, Iran. He attended elementary and high schools in Tabriz before receiving Engineering

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Citizenship

For discussion: Based on the content of the article, Arkani-Hamed would appear to be more accurately described as a Canadian physicist working in the United States than as an American physicist. The article explicitly states that he became a Canadian citizen. Since the U.S. doesn't allow for dual nationality, except for very particular circumstances, it seems likely he is no longer a U.S. citizen. Can anyone verify and clarify? --24.32.67.234 (talk) 22:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The US does allow for dual nationality... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.141.90.47 (talk) 21:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any information online, and I don't want to ask him in person. Since he's been working exclusively in the US for at least the past 15 years, I feel he could reasonably be described as either a Canadian physicist or an American physicist. I'll put him in both categories -- and leave him in the Iranian physicists category, though that seems a bit more tenuous. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 04:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


He is originally from Iran and was raised to Iranian parents and also lived in Iran. When you put a word before a dash and a nationality, this word represents your origins and ethnicity. Like "African-American", "Indian-American", "Iranian-American", etc. Saying "Canadian-American" means the guy is originally from Canada and lives and grew up in the US. He is an Iranian-American or an Iranian-Canadian or an Iranian-American/Canadian but not a Canadian-American or an American-Canadian.
There appears to be a disconnect here. MOS:OPENPARA says that the opening paragraph of a bio should include "Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity)" and then goes on to say, "In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable. Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." TBased on the evidence, especially his CV which mentions his Canadian and American citizenship and says nothing about Iran, I am inclined to think that "Canadian-American" is the correct term to use in the first sentence. It's fine to mention his parents later on, but unless there's more compelling evidence, his ethnicity doesn't belong in the first sentence. --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:53, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tabriz

Can we resolve the edit war over Tabriz? I don't care, one way or the other. It seems to me to be a trivial issue, and if it can't be resolved, it is best left unsaid. But whatever resolution is arrived at, it is better than an edit war, that's for sure. TomS TDotO (talk) 15:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Re: Tabriz

Hi, the problem is user Artavas is deleting Tabriz for the birthplace of Nima's parents. I've referenced MIT source for Mr. Jafar Arkani-Hamed, who is Nima's father and mentions Tabriz in his biography. It seems to me Artavas has a racial agenda for deleting Tabriz. It's because Tabriz is an Azerbaijani-speaking city and Artavas is Armenian and is possibly taking Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict to Wikipedia to wage his prejudice. Needless to mention that Artavas seems ungrateful to Tabriz which has an Armenian community even as Armenians have driven out every Azerbaijani from what is now Armenia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.177.247.142 (talk) 09:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tabriz

Artavas has been deleting Tabriz, and that with a purpose, claiming lack of source which is untrue. An MIT document has been provided as reference which states Nima's father, Jafargholi Arkani-Hamed is from Tabriz. But since Artavas is an Armenian, he doesn't like Tabriz, an Azerbaijani-speaking city, to be mentioned. While Tabriz has an Armenian community itself, Artavas has, in most likelihood, a Dashnak agenda which revolves around enmity with anything Azerbaijani. http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/58240/29576858.pdf?sequence1 On page -lv- of BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE, it states: The author was born on February 2, 1940, in Tabriz, Iran. He attended elementary and high schools in Tabriz before receiving Engineering Degree from the Engineering Faculty of the University of Tehran in 1962.