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Please update: the MNLA have taken Gao as of Mar 31/Apr 1 (depending on time zones). See here: [1] . Thank you Metaknowledge (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please update again: MNLA/Ancar Dine have taken Tombouctou as of Apr 1. See here: [2] . Thank you - Metaknowledge (talk) 16:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also taken: w:Ber, Mali. See here (Français): [3] Thank you Metaknowledge (talk) 21:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Time for me to sleep now, but I'll check on it tomorrow, if someone else hasn't already updated it... Evzob (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More to come, I'm thinking. Here they've taken w:Niafunké: [4], and here's a citation that says they've taken w:Tinzaouaten: [5]. Thanks for all your work - I don't even know how to edit a file! Metaknowledge (talk) 21:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I've taken a look at those sources. Niafunké definitely seems to have been attacked, but I can't find a source clearly stating that it was actually captured or held. Tinzaouaten is already marked as rebel-held on the map. As for Ber, I'm still looking for a neutral source. That link goes to the MNLA rebel group's own website. Evzob (talk) 08:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And thanks for your appreciation of the map work - I usually edit with w:Inkscape Evzob (talk) 08:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Niafunke, Diré and Goundam are taken by the rebells. I don't have a source, but contact to some people there. There is no town left in teh north that is controlledby the Malien government or military (as all recent sources about the region tell).— Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.152.133.128 (talk • contribs)

If you can show me a source saying that these towns are actually occupied by rebel forces, I'll change it. The truth is though, this map could be considered a bit obsolete at this point, since as you mentioned, Malian forces have withdrawn from the entire north, plus it's not clear who really controls many of the cities and towns (MNLA, Ansar Dine, no one?) Evzob (talk) 14:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Which does red represent, and which grey? The map is not clear. Since they are different groups with very different aims, can they be put in different rows, specifying which color burst means which group?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. In fact, there probably shouldn't be two colors at all - the situation has changed a lot, and the MNLA rebels aren't known to control any towns at all anymore. Should we revert it? Evzob (talk) 16:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe it should have just one color, but the legend/title just needs to be changed to reflect that it's not the MNLA being depicted anymore. Evzob (talk) 16:12, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

needs changed--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice to improve the map showing the area bombing of the French Air Force. --Abdel-31 (talk) 18:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thats not a bad idea but i think it fits more in Operation Serval rather than the main page.

--Liquidinsurgency (talk) 01:30, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a map in French for helping you: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/koolwolf/Mali-carte-new.jpg --Abdel-31 (talk) 18:25, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The map is incorrect, it shows all towns as controlled by islamist - this is wrong many are controlled by MNLA! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomstewiki (talk • contribs) 18:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This image was designed, and still appears to be for, a map of the Tuareg rebellion. The current situation is quite different. There is no more independence movement, the Islamists want an Islamic Mali, so having something such as "Area claimed" in a map involving Islamist control is wrong. It also no longer makes any sense to group the MNLA and the Islamists, as they are no longer allied, and the MNLA have lost the population centres anyway. I suggest this file is moved back to the end of the Tuareg rebellion, when they unilaterally declared a ceasefire, and the latest one uploaded under a new title, such as "Mali Islamist conflict" or something similar (no real preference on what it's called). Chipmunkdavis (talk) 18:41, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

14 Jan 2013: en:Diabaly#January_2013_rebel_occupation. Boud (talk) 21:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 17:13, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

en:Douentza: Defence Minister Le Drian announces Douentza retaken by Malian forces with French support: Liberation, Le Figaro - both cite a single Ministry communique. Boud (talk) 16:23, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone else think the map currently looks as if the French are bombing their own towns? --U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 06:26, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why the airstikes were added in the first place. Are they suppose to indicate recent airstrikes, or all airstrikes? --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No idea. I vote the airstrike symbols be deleted. In most conflict infoboxes only areas of control are shown.--U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 16:39, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like the airstrike symbols to be removed from the map since this distracts from the main purpose; to show who holds what. Also, I would like to ad a green (mali green) spiked thingie around government held towns. Any objections?--U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 23:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. That's fine with me. --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 23:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would like the airstrike symbols to be removed from the map since this distracts from the main purpose; to show who holds what. Also, I would like to ad a green (mali green) spiked thingie around government held towns. Any objections? --U5K0 (talk) 23:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I updated the map with various new additions and included your suggestions. I just limited the green to the towns retaken, and made it circular to make it recognizable for color-blind people. Cheers! -- Orionist ★ talk 14:04, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Great work! Just one question; could you add the sources to the Notes section on the file page or just point to where they are and we can share the load? Just so it can be clear where the info is from and so it can be updated as needed. Thanks again. It really looks awesome. --U5K0 (talk) 15:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Quick note, the date needs updating on the map to the 26th 176.255.163.206 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A new movement has been created in Kidal See fr:Mouvement islamique de l'Azawad and FT/Reuters. It is no longer clear if Ansar Dine still controls Kidal or Menaka. Teofilo talk 14:45, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The French have taken Hombori: [6], [7], [8], etc. noclador (talk) 13:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to update the picture but it wont load. No idea why. Anyone? --U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 13:53, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean you can't upload it, or do you mean it's not updating? It's it's the latter case, see this:Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 14:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried everything. It just won't update. Check the previous versions. The last 3 times I uploaded the same file and it always only shows up as the previous version, but never as the current one. Tell me, is Homburi green on your computer? If not, the problem is with commons. --U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 16:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

the last version before the current one shows Hombori in green on my PC. noclador (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hombori is green on my computer as well. --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hombori is yet purple on my computer --Abdel-31 (talk) 19:53, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Then read this and follow the instructions to fix it:Wikipedia:Bypass your cache.--Futuretrillionaire (talk) 19:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Useful link! My upload may or may not have been necessary, but I think now we need to wait. There's a real technical problem at the servers: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) - "This is a confirmed problem related to the eqiad migration, and operations is working on it now. Hopefully should be resolved shortly. ^demon[omg plz] 14:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)" - The comments further down show that the problem is not solved yet. We have to be patient! Remember how many servers the WMF techies have to handle and how many users are trying to update - and read - WMF project pages!

"Migration" means shifting a lot of date from one software and/or hardware system to another. Let's be patient with the techies! Boud (talk) 00:35, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eqiad refers to a data centre at Ashburn,_Virginia <conspiracy-theory>in order to get our US data storage physically close to the CIA</conspiracy-theory> at Langley,_Virginia in the north-east of the United States. Boud (talk) 00:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

overall plan of the eqiad migration Boud (talk) 01:01, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

French soldiers captured Léré. http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/01/25/262489.html --77.21.26.124 (talk) 18:55, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It says they are "pushing towards the town of Lere". It doesn't say they captured it.--Futuretrillionaire (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unnamed city in the map(in blue) are named: Labbezanga (east - south of Gao)Sources: Labbezenga, Google Maps, OpenStreetMap... I'm not sure for the other unnamed city at the west maybe: Tilemsi. --Abdel-31 (talk) 00:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think someone added those unnamed towns to represent the general area controlled by the MNLA. Im not sure if they're actual towns.--Futuretrillionaire (talk) 13:58, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What are the sources for MNLA holding some border towns on the map? EllsworthSK (talk) 00:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they're based on this:[9]. The unnamed border towns are supposed to represent MNLA controlled areas.--Futuretrillionaire (talk) 13:57, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• BBC News

noclador (talk) 13:15, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

thanks!! :-) noclador (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Gao now taken -- CNN --U5K0'sTalk_{Make WikiLove not WikiWar} 19:01, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done --Futuretrillionaire (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The French are about to enter Léré: [10] noclador (talk) 17:40, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need that red border indicating rebel-held territory? I find it very hard to edit, and it gives the misleading impression that all the rebel groups are "united".--Futuretrillionaire (talk) 19:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is necessary to show that the French and Malians are not controlling any of the vast tracts of desert in the north. If you find it hard to edit and you need to update the file, you can temporarily delete it and I'll restore it in a later update. -- Orionist ★ talk 21:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could the label "AQMI" be corrected to AQIM? I tried to do it myself, but I'm presuming the file is protected, because I get a "You cannot overwrite this file" error. Mnmazur (talk)

 Not done: File isn't on Wikipedia, it's on Commons. You can tell because of the big box below the image but above the summary. Follow the blue link titled "description page there". --Redrose64 (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]