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Greetings,

I came across this document which refers to a lawsuit against the DHS. In one paragraph, it contains the following text:

Further, during his investigation, petitioner was contacted by an individual going by the name Blanchardb who is located in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. (See Plaintiff's Exhibits A & B, attached hereto and incorporated herein.) Said Blanchardb shut plaintiff out of all of the several programs of the Foundation, ending petitioner's ability to further investigate the Foundation.

Do you happen to know the username or IP address of the person you blocked? From the information in this lawsuit, I appears your decision was correct, btw. :) -- Mathias Schindler (talk) 12:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I found it -- Mathias Schindler (talk) 12:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This was posted in a newsgroup. In the US, an attorney can get disbarred just for accepting a case like this. Furthermore, given the plaintiff's history, it is likely that he'll be forced to pay Wikipedia's legal bills in advance or else the courts will just refuse to hear the case. I wouldn't worry about it. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 23:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No lawyer was involved and the case was dismissed. I doubt that Wikimedia had any expenses in this case and I do not know if DHS is going to send a bill to him. -- Mathias Schindler (talk) 06:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I really do. This time I disagree, but we will see what happens. :) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 04:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm trying to make a page for OriginOil but no matter what I put, the page gets tagged for deletion. I don't get it, since here are a few examples of company pages that exist on Wikipedia, which read to me no less or no more like promotional pieces as you say my OriginOil page does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapphire_Energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PetroSun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe%27s_Stone_Crab http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baskin_Robbins

What is it about these pages that make them okay for wikipedia, but other company pages (namely the one I'm trying to create) that break the rules? Do you need news citations about OriginOil? There are plenty. I thought you wanted impartial references; impartial means to me that OriginOil would not be mentioned but related technology would be.

Thanks in advance for clarifying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cre8factory (talk • contribs) 22:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "impartial references" you added are not about OriginOil at all. They are about the problems that led to the creation of OriginOil. There's a world of difference. What we need is for you to show that OriginOil meets our notability guidelines, and that means more than merely showing that the company attempts to be a solution to a major problem. That means, in your case, showing that your company is already recognized by independent reliable sources as being a solution to the problem it intends to fight.

Notability, not mere existence, is the make-or-break inclusion criterion for all topics, and notability, by definition, cannot be self-proclaimed. You can't just say, here's a notable problem, and we're the solution. When you do that, you must show that the solution itself is notable. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 22:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What we mean by "independent reliable sources" is this: the sources must be about OriginOil, must be more than mere mentions (non-trivial), must be written by people unrelated to the company (independent), and must be reliable. That means blogs and press releases are out. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 23:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An example would be this, which is used in the Microsoft article. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 23:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, however I did not link to press releases. I linked to these pages:

http://www.originoil.com/news.html (see right side of page, "OriginOil in the News"

and http://www.originoil.com/multimedia.html (see left side of page, which includes CNN, ABC, etc.)

So why was my contribution deleted?

Thanks.

Cre8factory (talk) 00:43, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't deleted. It's still there, at least, as I am writing this reply. As for your references, the URL alone says unacceptable to establish notability: you're linking to the company's own website. You should link, instead, directly to the news sources themselves. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 01:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would help me a lot if you didn't have a signature that I can only see which to reply to by hovering over them and squinting. My mother always said I would go blind.

I've left you a TB on my talk page, anyway. Nothing viscious, but seems to me you PROD almost anything that doesn't get tr'd in a few days and then you want to keep this? Not sure why. PNT is not AfD anyway, so not sure how to proceed now.

I do appreciate your hard work old bean, just not sure what you're getting at now. Odd for you to leave a message on my page instead of simply ignore me, so I imagine I missed something.

Best wishes and keep up the hard work Si Trew (talk) 23:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]