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Dear Blanchardb,

While I appreciate that this may sound like a joke, it is a serious compition. There are three (currently anonymous) sponsers who are putting up $16,666 each. I have been asked to do all the setting up and creating of the treasure hunt and clues. It is our hope that we can get some media coverage of it , at which point the compitions sponsers will reveal themselves an get some advertising. However, all three were soncerned about the possibilty of negative coverage, so don't want to be known at this time.

I will remind you that should you delete it, you will not be eligable for the prize. I wish you good luck and happy hunting - plus you are probably the first person to see this, thus can get a good headstart on the clue.

Yours sincerly,

DoodleHammer 26 April 2009

Hey - great patrolling - just wondering what the second tag is for ? [1] JCutter (talk) 00:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Disregard - I re-read the template and get it now - just seemed strange to add both tags at once but I see what you were doing. Thanks. FYI - I notified OP of autobio... JCutter (talk) 00:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok...It said something like it could be deleted. Why??? I just created this coming series like about a week ago and I haven't posted anything like pictures, Information or videos yet. The link I submitted it to my OWN site. Just to let you know....So, Why is it up for possible deletion????? I, Myself made this...I know I may seem kind of overly worked up but I believe I have that right. All I did was post this so news could get out about my new manga/anime series. Ok? Goodbye and How do you remove the deletion box??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bunnee905 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, in the above argumentation, you pretty much stated all the reasons why your article will be deleted. All articles in Wikipedia must be on topics that meet certain minimum notability standards. You are not stating that there is any reliable source that ever addressed your project; as a matter of fact you are pretty much stating that it is an upstart project nobody else knows about at this point. This will get any article deleted, no matter what.

Second point: you wrote an article about your own project. Under conflict of interest guidelines, this is strongly discouraged. You should wait for someone else, who has not been commissioned by you, to start the article on your project.

Third point: you are inviting people to participate. That makes your article borderline spam by our definition of the term.

Fourth point: you asked me how to remove the deletion tag. Easily done, but since it is a speedy deletion tag, and you are the creator of the article, removing it yourself may earn you a warning, and a block if you persist.

Please keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a free web space provider.-- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 01:30, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another point: You wrote an edit summary that reads as follows: Ok, please don't edit my articles because I created the series I speak about so...... No matter what you think, just Don't. Please and Thank You. Sorry, but in Wikipedia, you do not own articles, even articles about yourself. Such a plea will fall on deaf ears. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 01:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It doesn't look notable at the mo. I have just started it. The horse was notable, winning NZ's main race three years in a row. Wallie (talk) 19:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I have updated it to show notability. I will add a lot more. The horse also held a lot of world records at the time. Wallie (talk) 19:25, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Blanchardb,

I´m brazilian and I saw the Brainfacturing definition here at wikipedia, which is very important here for us. As you can see, there are several google matches for this in portuguese. At pt.wiki, they deleted it because its an english term.....I don´t know if you understand, but I think this article should remain.

Thanks,

Pedro —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.82.12.142 (talk) 20:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please make your case at the deletion discussion, not here. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 21:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Blanchardb,

Thanks for the fix on the Alan Jenkins dab page. If you would give me any pointers to how these should be done, I should be grateful. I've added one more link since. FYI this came from a requested move which actually was just moving a redirect, but since my brother's middle name is Alan and I know how often that name is misspelled, I thought useful to add a redirect. Hope I did the right thing there. SimonTrew (talk) 22:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly off the beaten path, I was struggling yesterday with redirects for new (stub) article Citroën C1 ev'ie perm +/- "ë"/"", "C1"/(null), "ev"/"Ev", "'"/(null) gives you 2⁴ = 16, and there are probably more that combinatorially explode the possibilities. I stuck with the few I thought were likely hits. It is not exactly the most exciting article anyway, though it links into a "topic" as some people call it where each individual article stands on its own feet (as IMO it must, and indeed each indvidual edit) but the whole is bigger than the parts; it was very topical yesterday since this new electric car was launched and I have been subbing electric car quite a lot lately just to knock it in to shape so naturally I wanted to add the info and woohoo got there first (do I get a barnstar? No barnstars yet, whatever they are). Anyway sorry off topic I was just wondering if you have any rules of thumb for redirects cos I don't want to create too many. I don't mean advice like double redirects etc I can handle that formality and check up "what links here" etc, I mean what is useful, the "pre-emptive dab" I think it is called or something, trying to guess what people will search for. I know that's not quite what it means in that sense, it means in the article itself, but the same kinda applies, "if I was coming here and typed Alan Jenkins what would I expect to see?" Certainly I would not expect to see grumbly Wikipedia just telling me there is no page on that. SimonTrew (talk) 22:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and apparently there are a bunch of templates to use on dab pages. Unfortunately, like all of Wikipedia search, nobody can find them unless they already know where they are. Pointers there gratefully received. SimonTrew (talk) 22:44, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Usually, dead links are quickly removed from dab pages, and dab pages that contain no more than one blue link are deleted. Dab pages are meant to facilitate navigation between existing articles. This comes from the same logic that led Wikipedia to adopt the No blank pages guideline. But, as an alternative, you can create redirects. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 23:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may have missed the point. The redlinks were not on the dab page; rather, they were not in the search index at all so WP said "I give up" with its oh-so-helpful dab page (Wikipedia, now in 200 languages, but if you make a spelling error try again). I did all the redirects etc etc. What I was looking for help with, on the humourous Wikipediaholic test it said do you do redirects then do you also add reasons or something like that, I assumed there were a set of templates like you added {{dab}}. Templates are VERY hard to find until you know where they are, because WIKIPEDIA SEARCH IS CRAP. Just my humble opinion there. IT'S CRAP CRAP CRAP CRAP. GOOGLE HAD "DID YOU MEAN" TEN YEARS AGO. My less than humble opinion. SimonTrew (talk) 00:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you have something better to do than trace my edits? Meh ill stop now anyway... Wikipedia has helped me so many times, I think I should return the favour! :D 202.46.138.86 (talk) 11:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well I disagree because in the beginning it starts off with why he is notable. Then it Continues to list he many pages he has listed under his name. It continues on to give links to his youtube page where you can view the many videos he has posted. If you were to go onto his myspace or youtube page you would see the many fans he has for the music he sings. So in my opinion I disagree with the speedy deletion of the Jordan Grizzle page. Furthermore, he has sang his own songs which will be later put on his Wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrizzleFan (talk • contribs) 18:18, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that you do not seem to know of any site other than his youtube page that claims he has that many fans. You need at least one reliable source (click on this link to see what we mean by that) to show that Grizzle is indeed notable. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 18:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok but he is also all over google.. and on imeem... —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrizzleFan (talk • contribs) 18:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

and his website is being done professionally.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrizzleFan (talk • contribs) 18:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His website being done professionally is a personal opinion and does not belong on a wikipedia article. Google is also not a reference, it is a search engine. I support the CSD as the author has not proved the significance of the subject. prospider‡ 18:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What we need is a page from a major site which is neither a blog nor a forum nor a wiki and over which he has zero editorial input. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 18:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His Website. He has no input on it nor can he edit it in anyway. Its not a blog, or a forum, or a wiki, it is an actual website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrizzleFan (talk • contribs) 18:51, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As of right now, his website is not up and running. Also, there is no reliable evidence that states that he does not have completely control over the website. I continue to support the CSD A7. prospider‡ 18:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So can't you just wait the website is soon to be launched and Furthermore if he had complete control over his website it would be finished by now. The site was previously launched but was disabled because the domain was bought and now everything is being converted. That is were the introductory paragraph comes from. And to continue, the only input he has is the quotes that say what he has to say about everything. He has also been recognized by A&R however they do not show many of the artist they acknowledge and assist in producing songs therefore that is the only reason he is not listed on their page.--GrizzleFan (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GrizzleFan, the problem is, none of what you say is supported by any solid references. If the page does come up and it is constituted as a reliable source, then you are welcome to recreate the article and the CSD will be considered then. However, without any references nor any actual factual content on this singer, he is ultimately unnotable and does not deserve a page on wikipedia. CSD A7 still supported. prospider‡ 19:05, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What solid reference do you need??? His songs are all posted not only on youtube but are being sold on myspace.. the only thing that is being waited upon is the website to be relaunched...--GrizzleFan (talk) 19:09, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain to me what you would consider a credible claim of significance or importance that I can give you....--GrizzleFan (talk) 19:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A solid reference is outlined at this page, and just because his songs are posted does not mean they are significant. I would recommend reading this article for assistance. prospider‡ 19:23, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

so once the website is running would that be consider a reliable source???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrizzleFan (talk • contribs) 19:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

can someone answer my question???? if his website jordan grizzle .com was to be launched would it then be credible and notable enough for a wikipedia page...

Hi there. I just declined an A3 on Straight Silver because the article had content. An infobox with the book-data does count as content. If I may, I'd suggest you just fix those articles (like I did) instead of tagging them incorrectly as A3. Regards SoWhy 19:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]