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Taken from [[Forgiveness#As_a_foundation_for_authoritarian_control]]. - Austerlitz -- [[Special:Contributions/88.75.82.164|88.75.82.164]] ([[User talk:88.75.82.164|talk]]) 17:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
Taken from [[Forgiveness#As_a_foundation_for_authoritarian_control]]. - Austerlitz -- [[Special:Contributions/88.75.82.164|88.75.82.164]] ([[User talk:88.75.82.164|talk]]) 17:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC) |
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==Sex in the Talmud== |
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Apart from sex about the Bible, another topic that is arguably controversial is [[sex in the Talmud]]. There are all sorts of allegations that the Talmud promotes sexual immorality such as child sexual abuse and it would be good thing if we could clear up those charges. [http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/judaism-israel/31979-pedophilia-talmuds-dirty-secret.html] [http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/america_2.html] [[User:ADM|ADM]] ([[User talk:ADM|talk]]) 11:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Lingual error?
The intro of this article says: "child sexual abuse also occurs when an adult indecently exposes their genitalia to a child.." Is this lingually correct? Or should it indeed be: "adults indecently expose their genitalia.."? VKing (talk) 13:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Looks grammatically correct as it is I think.--Expsychobabbler (talk) 13:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I understand your objection, but according to Wiktionary here it is not used in the singular form even for one person. Presumably it is like 'pants', always plural, or something like that. Tyciol (talk) 03:44, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Error in Mayo Clinic article, pedophiles account for 65% of child molesters, not 88%
The actual study by Abel and Harlow, page 9, notes that of the child molesters, only 65% are clinical pedophiles. Of the child victims (children molested, not child molesters) 88% are molested by pedophiles and 95% of molestations (separate acts) are done by pedophiles.
This difference is very significant to the whole pedophile/child molester angle. 88% makes it look like almost everyone who ever touches a child is a clinical pedophile, while 65% means that one out of third who commit at least one child molestation are not clinical pedophiles, meaning that their sexual preference is people older than prepubescent children.
Even this 65/35 ratio could be somewhat biased towards a higher number of pedophiles, because 12% of the child molesters analysed in the study were in prison (US incarceration rate 3.2% of total adult population) and pedophiles, who in turn molest a much larger number of children than non-pedophiles, are likely overrepresented since the risk of getting caught and imprisoned is therefore higher than for non-pedophile molesters with one or very few actual molestations. Could someone registered please fix this? --85.156.226.189 (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Researching...
- Indeed, you are correct. Wow that section is hard to read. Needs more visual aids. Anyway, I will fix it.Legitimus (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
False allegation
False allegation of child sexual abuse is not mentioned in the Child sexual abuse article. One short chapter on false allegations would be appropriate due to its nature and seriousness. Godtadet (talk) 16:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is mentioned under "see also." This article is already rather long, and the subject already has it's own wikipedia article.Legitimus (talk) 12:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Mothers' role
- The price for protecting the Mothers (Sunday March 15, 2009) As far as I have seen, it is not mentioned. -Austerlitz -- 88.75.88.32 (talk) 08:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Forgiveness for mothers and fathers? For mothers only? For fathers only? For none of them? -- 88.75.88.32 (talk) 08:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Forgiveness and its possible effects
- Yoga teachers Joel Kramer and Diana Alstead analyse the use of unconditional love and the associated concept of forgiveness as a foundation for authoritarian control.[1] They survey religions worldwide to make their assertion that religious imperatives of forgiveness are often used to perpetrate cycles of ongoing abuse. They state that "to forgive without requiring the other to change is not only self-destructive, but ensures a dysfunctional relationship will remain so by continually rewarding mistreatment."
- ^ Kramer, Joel and Alstead, Diana, The Guru Papers: Masks of Authoritarian Power, ISBN 1-883319-00-5
Taken from Forgiveness#As_a_foundation_for_authoritarian_control. - Austerlitz -- 88.75.82.164 (talk) 17:54, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Sex in the Talmud
Apart from sex about the Bible, another topic that is arguably controversial is sex in the Talmud. There are all sorts of allegations that the Talmud promotes sexual immorality such as child sexual abuse and it would be good thing if we could clear up those charges. [1] [2] ADM (talk) 11:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)