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Hi everybody!! I'll be away for the next five weeks but promisse to return in the middle of October. Have fun!

Hello and welcome! "Wikify" means adding wiki-style markup such as bold, italics, and links. "fyi" simply means "For your information." I hope you have fun and if you have any other questions just ask me or the Village pump. --mav

Muriel, you might like to add something here about yourself?

Um, for list of people and its sublists, I think it was agreed not to wikify the years, since they're all in the bios, and there's not likely to be much value in linking the year directly from the list. Stan 13:32, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)

• Well, in this quixotest quest of mine, i discovered several discrepancies between bios and lists. I also found lots of repetitions of people: the popes are a mess. About linking the years, i was starting to agree with you. But, then again, there are lots of years, specially before 1800, who don't have much information. I think i will continue with the removal of duplicates and adding births and deaths to years, without linking the years. Or do you think that's just a terrible waste of time? Did i understood your comment? Muriel

• • There's some discussion in Talk:list of people about using metadata in bios to auto-construct the list, because it has a pretty stereotyped form. It's probably not going to happen soon, so weeding the list is still worthwhile. I tweak it to push closer to the form that I think it's most likely to have when automation happens; years unlinked, plus 1-5 words about occupation/notability as a hint in case the name is unfamiliar. Stan 15:03, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hi, Muriel. Thanks for your help! Hba 10:12, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Heh. No problem. This morning I've just been using the spellchecker, as opposed to actual copyediting. But trust me, your articles are among the least of my problems spelling-wise. :) - Hephaestos 10:44, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hi Muriel,

Thanks for the legions link, I'd been working from my old second edition of The Oxford Classical Dictionary. I must confess I got the idea of doing a few legion entries from your user page list. Lisiate 06:05, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Olá, Muriel! Era para te agradecer as palavras que deixaste na minha página. Espero ter tempo para continuar a página sobre o 25 de Abril. Já agora, boas férias no mais belo país do mundo. ;) Marco NevesMarco Neves

Thanks for the Hello! and the tips, Muriel. Yes, the Wikipedia is a marvel (even a Dream, actually), and Geology is on my list of extra-special interests. I have read and studied dozens of Guide pages in the last week, and am gradually becoming less of a hazard to all. While reading, I have seen some disturbing tales: "24", Edit Wars, Vandalism, and more .. <shudder>. Those came after Can It Really Work?, and other introductory Sure, Go Ahead! articles. Brave folks, and an impressive product ... but I have reservations, honestly. I would like to grapple with such points in an appropriate place and manner. -- Ted Clayton

I went over to Olivenza and realized that copyright isn't even the largest issue--some NPOVing has now been done. Thanks for the pointer.Vicki Rosenzweig 15:09, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for you help!

Hey, it sounds like a good call to me, but I've occasionally gotten rapped on this kind of change in the past (e.g. when I went to straighten out the Medicis). The Wiki rule is that the article goes under the most common form in English - even when scholars, or logic, disagree. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names) and the link there to royal names (which applies in this case) for more. So we have Ramesses under "Ramses", for instance, even though the scholars now pretty much use "Ramesses". Lots of people tend to use Google searches to find the most popular form, especially the "Advanced Search" page which lets you specify English-only. Noel 19:06, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I think Afonso ought to be all right. English, after all, would be Alphonse, but I've never heard anyone call them that. (Actually, I've never heard anyone refer to the Portuguese kings at all, except for Henry the Navigator.) - Montréalais 03:18, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)

• I agree with wikipedia policy for names. Whenever there is an english option, like in John I or the Peters, this is used. What i dont agree is to see portuguese kings in spanish names, except in the spanish wiki! By the way, Henry the Navigator was just a prince and a duke, not king... :) Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 12:08, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Sounds good to me, as I'm not aware of any of the spellings being particularly prevalent in English usage. However, given that there's this ambiguity, it's at least possible that English-speakers might look for them under any of those spellings, so there should probably be redirects. --Delirium 21:45, Aug 31, 2003 (UTC)

Olá, Muriel! Já vi o teu artigo sobre a Batalha de Aljubarrota. Parece-me muito bom! Logo que possa (estou em mudanças e tenho pouco tempo de internet por estes dias), leio com mais atenção, tudo bem? Cumprimentos sinceros deste conterrâneo ;) User:Marco Neves

What timing! I just got back from Europe three hours ago, with nearly 2,000 pics in hand (we love digital cameras) and considerable progress in reading Livy. At first glance, your Rome proposal seems noncontroversial, but I'll look it over more closely tomorrow. Stan 03:34, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hi, I don't know if you have seen this site:

http://sirius.sgic.fi/~juha/konsuli.html

It has a small list of some of the princeps senatus you were looking for, but it's obviously very incomplete. It might be a start though. Adam Bishop 21:34, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I've been looking at your proposal, but I don't really know much about Roman history aside from the basics...my knowledge starts as it turns into the Byzantine Empire, and even that is a little sketchy :) I do have a Roman history class coming up in January, though. I'll try to help as much as I can! Adam Bishop 12:46, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hi Muriel

Thanks for the message. I've had a look at a few of the different documents you mentioned. I get the feeling I'll be fairly regularly contributing to Wikipedia, even if it's just proofreading a bit. I'm afraid I'm the kind of busybody who'd correct everyone's spelling and punctuation if I could, especially misused apostrophe's.

cheers

Gypsum Fantastic 15:57, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Catching up on all your legion additions - great stuff! But I have a kibitz; the articles launch into details without actually saying what the article is about ("a legion of ancient Rome"). Think of somebody using the random page function that doesn't know much about ancient history - it will be totally confusing. You want the first paragraph to let readers know what the article is about, even they have no background in the subject. I'll tweak the ones I'm reading - the needed changes are minor. Stan 17:10, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Your subpages have been deleted as requested. If you change your mind and want them undeleted, then Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion is probably the best place to go, or just let me know if I'm around. Angela 13:25, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)