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[[User:12.65.66.235|12.65.66.235]] 16:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

==Desposyni==
Dear Ovadayah,
I have seen you got involved in the Desposyni article. I have long held many concerns about this article and think it needs to be seriously redone, including retititling it (though I certainly cannot agree with you diagnosis that it was written in a conservative Catholic POV - quite the opposite) - regardless of this, it needs work. I hope we can cooperate in this. [[User:Str1977|Str1977]] [[User talk:Str1977|<sup>(smile back)</sup>]] 17:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

:Hi Str1977. I thought at first glance that the article could be polished up for GA without too much effort. My mistake. As you say, it needs to be seriously redone. That's why I put it in for Cleanup in April. Alas, no takers so far. I'm willing to spend more time on it with some other collaborators. I mistakenly assumed it was conservative Catholic POV because of the extensive quotes of Malachi Martin. All of these quotes were copied verbatim from some group's religious website. [[User:Ovadyah|Ovadyah]] 18:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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I noticed you were new, and wanted to share some links I thought useful:

Notes:

  • The link to the POV-section template is {{POV-section}}.
  • {{subst:test3}} is preferred.
  • Errors that need correction should be treated like <strike>this</strike> or <s>this</s>.

Questions and comments

Your request

It's done, my friend. And the other task is done as well. I e-mailed you a second batch of files today, and once you confirm that you received them and were able to open them, I'll send you the final batch. I'm afraid I'm too busy to be doing much editing, though. Blessings. Musical Linguist 19:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Final batch sent! Musical Linguist 19:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Banu Qurayza

I don't mean to disturb you, as you seem to be busy in real life, but please respond back at Talk:Banu_Qurayza#Another_attempt as soon as you can. Thanks!Bless sins 00:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

caps

Sorry, my mistake. I don't have the published version, but the lowercase seems to be correct. Paul B 08:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look, but I'm afraid it was beyond me! If I knew more about the whole background to the subject, I'd probably be in a better position to judge. Sorry. Musical Linguist 14:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beatles' talk page

I am really sorry if you felt hurt - I was only having fun. The editors on The Beatles' pages often joke with each other, and it was definitely not a joke against you. We are a wonderful bunch, and you should join us. Trust me on this one, please... :) egde 19:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for your reply. It might seem to be serious, but what can fans of a band that ceased to exist in the 1960s do? We're a hopeless case, but we do have fun. Read between the lines, and add some jokes of your own, which will be greatly appreciated. :) egde 20:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When "POV" becomes indistinguishable from unfamiliarity

POV is completely antithetical to the purpose of a respectable encyclopedia. In your case, however, you are (I presume) mostly unfamiliar with the subject matter, therefore content you are not familiar with can look very similar to POV. James Parkes' "The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue", Rabbi Harvey Falk's "Jesus the Pharisee", and Hyam Maccoby's work, is really required reading for this subject. If you're interested, you're welcome to enroll in the khavruta (distance learning program) provided by the Netzarim in Ra'anana, Israel (http://netzaril.co.il), which documents all of the basic information and earliest extant references in a very accessible manner.

Btw, by apostasy, I simply implied various events (or major people) that lead to the end of such sects, in chronological order. Few readers are familiar with how groups such as the ancient Netzarim and Evyonim mysteriously 'disappeared', so that section is important. Any other title for that section would easily do.

12.65.66.235 16:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Desposyni

Dear Ovadayah, I have seen you got involved in the Desposyni article. I have long held many concerns about this article and think it needs to be seriously redone, including retititling it (though I certainly cannot agree with you diagnosis that it was written in a conservative Catholic POV - quite the opposite) - regardless of this, it needs work. I hope we can cooperate in this. Str1977 (smile back) 17:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Str1977. I thought at first glance that the article could be polished up for GA without too much effort. My mistake. As you say, it needs to be seriously redone. That's why I put it in for Cleanup in April. Alas, no takers so far. I'm willing to spend more time on it with some other collaborators. I mistakenly assumed it was conservative Catholic POV because of the extensive quotes of Malachi Martin. All of these quotes were copied verbatim from some group's religious website. Ovadyah 18:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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