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::::They are probably so inconsistent in following their own style guide in this area because it makes absolutely no sense to always capitalize the word "indigenous" even when it's being used in such a generic way as it is here. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 18:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
::::They are probably so inconsistent in following their own style guide in this area because it makes absolutely no sense to always capitalize the word "indigenous" even when it's being used in such a generic way as it is here. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 18:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Strongly oppose''' - per numerous style guides, previous discussions linked and [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)]]. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;"> oncamera </span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 19:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Strongly oppose''' - per numerous style guides, previous discussions linked and [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)]]. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;"> oncamera </span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 19:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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*''' Strongly Oppose''' - Per [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes)]] and {{cite web| url=https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/bias-free-language/racial-ethnic-minorities| website=APA Style Guide| title=Racial and Ethnic Identity}}. The proper respectful thing to do is capitalize Indigenous. What harm is there in being respectful of a group of human beings? --[[User:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b76e79">'''A'''</span><span style="color:#be4f60">'''Rose'''</span>]][[User talk:ARoseWolf|<span style="color:#b87333">'''Wolf'''</span>]] 20:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC) |
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There seems to be an obvious slant in the article: although it mentions that the terms "genocide" regarding the colonization of the Americas is contested by scholars, the article presents the side arguing for genocide profusely and barely spares a few lines for those that argue that dying of epidemics is obviously not part of a genocide. The article seems to focus primarily on a single author also. 204.48.77.80 (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 30 October 2023
Genocide of Indigenous peoples → Genocide of indigenous peoples – Suggest de-capitalizing the adjective "indigenous" to follow our manual of style. I could see an argument for capitalizing a proper noun, but here it is just an adjective. Doing an RM in case I am missing something. If this RM closes as lowercase, we should also change the article prose, sidebar, etc. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:37, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- This was moved recently citing MOS:RACECAPS. Moxy-
21:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose - the manual of style (MOS:RACECAPS as noted by Moxy) refers to WP:TRIBE, which reads that terms like Indigenous "are all capitalized when referring to individuals and their citizenship", and notes elsewhere that Indigenous is a term of citizenship, not of race. In footnotes, that naming convention refers to the style guides of several prominent organizations giving the same advice, including the Native American Journalists Association. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 22:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment It looks like Bohemian Baltimore moved several articles from "indigenous" to "Indigenous" back in August of this year. @Bohemian Baltimore: Was there any discussion of these moves around that time period? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:04, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- User:CorbieVreccan had suggested this for articles on the topic like Talk:Genocide of Indigenous peoples/Archive 7#Genocide of Indigenous Peoples.as outlined at project essay Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America#Style Guides Moxy-
05:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- User:CorbieVreccan had suggested this for articles on the topic like Talk:Genocide of Indigenous peoples/Archive 7#Genocide of Indigenous Peoples.as outlined at project essay Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America#Style Guides Moxy-
- Support. It's not a proper noun and shouldn't be capitalized. Rreagan007 (talk) 04:05, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support. Clearly not a proper name when referring to any and all indigenous peoples and not a specific group. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:42, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support This article is covering all types of groups who are considered indigenous, not individuals who belong to specific tribes.★Trekker (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Indigenous is always capitalized when referring to people, as per AP, MLA, Chicago, and other styles. From the ACES Society for Editors: "Capitalize this term used to refer to original inhabitants of a place." So the word doesn't have to pertain to a specific group of Indigenous peoples to require capitalization. Yuchitown (talk) 14:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Note that Wikipedia is not bound by other people's style guides. It's certainly not always capitalised (the BBC usually doesn't capitalise it, for instance). Why should it be? There's no logic to it being capitalised unless it refers to a specific group and is therefore a proper name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- We are not bound to follow the overwhelming majority of world's styles guides; however, we can agree with them and have chosen to do so. The BBC goes back and forth but has capitalized "Indigenous" mid-sentence in articles example1, example2. Yuchitown (talk) 15:41, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Yuchitown
- Note that Wikipedia is not bound by other people's style guides. It's certainly not always capitalised (the BBC usually doesn't capitalise it, for instance). Why should it be? There's no logic to it being capitalised unless it refers to a specific group and is therefore a proper name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- They are probably so inconsistent in following their own style guide in this area because it makes absolutely no sense to always capitalize the word "indigenous" even when it's being used in such a generic way as it is here. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose - per numerous style guides, previous discussions linked and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes). oncamera (talk page) 19:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose - Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ethnicities and tribes) and "Racial and Ethnic Identity". APA Style Guide.. The proper respectful thing to do is capitalize Indigenous. What harm is there in being respectful of a group of human beings? --ARoseWolf 20:26, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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Style Guides in favour of Capitalization
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Style Guides on Indigenous terminology and other issues. Like Native American, Indigenous is capitalized when referring to people.
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