Hello, May I know why you think Salah Barmada the prominent syrianwriter and senior civil servant not notable? thanks

Hi Kj cheetham, thanks for reviewing my draft! I recently joined the Women scientists project, let me know if there are any other ways I can help out! Thanks, Coolcactus04 (talk) 00:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Coolcactus04, thanks for your message, and welcome to the project! I'd say just keep up the good work and add to things as you come across them. Let me know if you ever get stuck with something though, and hopefully I can at least point you in the right direction. -Kj cheetham (talk) 18:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again! Just wanted to thank you for cleaning up behind me lol. I had no idea I was formatting incorrectly, and I think (?) I learned how to use the Google Scholar template properly. I'm trying to look at what you've fixed, but let me know if there is anything else I'm missing! Coolcactus04 (talk) 01:01, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coolcactus04, you seem to be getting the hang of things. :) -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:04, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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As you have seen, I am poking around in the stubs and expanding on some of them. How do you decide what is and what is not a stub? For example, I agree that Barbara Baker (molecular biologist) provides enough detail to not be stub. However, Farinaz Koushanfar says little about what she does, though it has details on her education and awards. I am happy to remove the stub marker more often (as I have seen you have removed it from a few pages I was working on), I am just looking for some guidance on the metric you use. Cheers. --DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:05, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DaffodilOcean. I'd say both of those were borderline stub/start class. The official stub guidance is at WP:STUB, with further guidance on classifications at WP:QUALITY, though individual wikiprojects may also have their own assessment criteria. An article that is no longer a stub can still be quite incomplete. The other thing I take into account is some machine learning from ORES. For those two articles, that gives Barbara Baker (molecular biologist) as "Start (53.4%)", and Farinaz Koushanfar as "Start (76.1%)", i.e. more confidence that the latter is "Start".

Personally, I try to ignore things like lists of papers, etc. when considering the length of an article. I tend to only "up-rate" (not sure what the word is) an article if ORES is over 50% in agreement, and my own judgement agrees. In the end, it's a judgement call though. I definitely do sometimes make mistakes too. :) I certainly wouldn't object to Barbara Baker (molecular biologist) being "start" rather than "stub" in it's current state. Sometimes it's also a case of just being WP:BOLD.

Hope that helps? -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:50, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I also remove stub tags on the main article if a wikiproject has already rated it as "start" or above, or even change the wikiproject ratings myself if need be. Philipp Kircher is one of the last articles I added a stub tag to, as very short, not even an infobox, beyond publications, not split into sections, as it's only a few sentances. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:53, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is more complicated than I realized. I was thinking of the 'stub' tags on the main page, not the ratings on the talk page. For example a page can be rated as a stub as you did for Philipp Kircher, but not have a {{stub}} on the bottom of the article. This makes sense. I will keep adding to the pages, remove the {{stub}} tag from the main page if I think it is warranted, but leave it to you to do the ratings on the talk pages. Thanks for your help, and for coming around after the edits I make. It's fun to watch what happens after I am done with a set of edits. --DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Even stub sorting (WP:STUBSORT) is another complexity I don't get into myself! Lots of people write essays on stubs too, like WP:CL-RULE. I've seen lots of arguments before about why are the article stub tags and the project stub ratings not in sync. Really it's just a bit of a mess and needs literally never ending tidying. I just do what little bits I can and hope for the best. :) Keep up the good work though! If you ever want to get more into wikiproject rating, I can point you in the direction of some tools to help automate it a bit. I've even got it set up so different wikiproject ratings make the article title a different colour so I have some indication without even having to look at the talk page. -Kj cheetham (talk) 13:28, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not quite ready to getting into rating pages...though I will keep the thought in mind. Cheers. DaffodilOcean (talk) 15:39, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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