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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ ProtobowlAddict ^uwu! (talk | contributions) 21:03, 24 March 2025 (UTC) [reply]

March 2025 Venezuelan deportations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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WP:NOTNEWS and WP:TRUMPCRUFT. ProtobowlAddict ^uwu! (talk | contributions) 20:36, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America. ProtobowlAddict ^uwu! (talk | contributions) 20:36, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep It's historical in that it's only the 3rd time in US history where the Alien Sedition Act has been used. There are 21 sources so far, and that's just a starting point. I think the deportation of Jerce Reyes Barrios may have enough solid sources to merit an article, and that's just one small piece of the bigger story. Bob drobbs (talk) 20:52, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I understand the arguments about notnews and trumpcruft, but this topic has major US constitutional implications, particularly since chief justice Roberts has weighed in. Nowa (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong keep. It's an important legal case. As already noted, this is the first time that any President has attempted to use a wartime act, the Alien Enemies Act, when the country isn't at war. (Previously used only in the War of 1812, WWI and WWII.) A week into the case, Trump has already called for the judge to be impeached because he dislikes the rulings, leading the Chief Justice of SCOTUS to rebuke Trump. The judge is currently trying to assess whether the government purposefully ignored a judicial order, contributing to some scholars' judgments that the US sliding into a constitutional crisis. People have been deported without due process, despite at least some of them being in the country legally and the Trump admin. admitting that many of them hadn't broken any laws. The fact that some Trump articles are cruft does not imply that all are, and this one isn't. FactOrOpinion (talk) 21:09, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:54, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: Coverage from all over the planet. Trump has violated a court order, so this also has legal implications. This won't be going away in a week, the legal implications alone are notable. Oaktree b (talk) 23:22, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Sorry, here from the Middle East [1] and Europe [2], in addition to the dozen or so sources now in the article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: It's being debated in Europe, in the non-English press [3]. That's an editorial from L'humanite, a French newspaper that has focused on human rights in the past. Oaktree b (talk) 23:31, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, and Law. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:15, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Retain this article because it is still March, Venezuelans are still being detained, and reliable sources are still publishing on the subject daily, including news articles that came out just hours ago. Not only is it inappropriate to delete an article that's of great current (and likely future) interest to our readers, but it's also not helpful to delete an article that's still in the process of growing and improving, with coverage by reliable sources such as Reuters, NPR, and the Washington Post. (Edit: A more important discussion, in my view, is whether it should be renamed or moved.) 1101 (talk) 05:02, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Talib1101Any suggestions for a name change? I think eventually the legal issues may be more notable than the deportations themselves and thus merit a name change, but we're not there yet. Bob drobbs (talk) 20:01, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Bob drobbs: - the legal case is called J.G.G. v. Trump - starship.paint (talk / cont) 02:18, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong keep This is a persistent situation that goes beyond a mere news item, revealing a recurring pattern. Various articles have documented large-scale deportations, proving that this is not an isolated action but rather a process affecting millions of people. In this context, the current procedure appears excessively bureaucratic and is supported by few strong arguments for such a drastic erasure. Wilfredor (talk) 14:13, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Snow keep The chances of an article on as newsworthy an event as this (also headline news in multiple countries) being deleted is zero. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per rationale of Bob drobbs, FactOrOpinion, Wilfredor and others above. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 15:43, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - international incident that is being discussed as a constitutional crisis in a powerful country. starship.paint (talk / cont) 01:10, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This is ongoing, and there are already backlash like J.G.G. v. TRUMP. This is a constitutional crisis developing. PatrickChiao (talk) 07:38, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, but change the name This is not going to be limited to March or to Venezuelans. Call it, United States Deportations to CECOT or something Snokalok (talk) 14:35, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with this. Monk of Monk Hall (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also agree with the suggested name change. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's an active discussion about changing the name here. talk -- Bob drobbs (talk) 19:50, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Deportation in the second presidency of Donald Trump ? Wilfredor (talk) 12:20, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: per above. Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 22:10, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]