Hello Mujinga,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Some SIT removed this stuff for deletion, because it seems to be vandalism or a hoax.

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all good Mujinga (talk) 03:01, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

As per my comment here- i am flabbergasted that the UK Social Centres Network page has been merged with Autonomous social center without any of the information being retained. This is an act of vandalism and I need to get to the bottom of it. Mujinga (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah ok i found this with another editor being equally flabbergasted Mujinga (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

This is a real punch in the stomach for someone who spent a lot of time editing the original page Mujinga (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Woah check out this act of vandalism. OMG i never saw anything like this. Mujinga (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

That edit trashed 50 references! Including those from the Guardian, Liverpool Echo, Urban75, Peace News and several academic articles!?Mujinga (talk) 11:30, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

• Happy to talk through those edits and any questions you have, particularly if you see reliably sourced info that didn't survive the merger. Otherwise, WP does not host tables with 50 primary source references. As an encyclopedia, we paraphrase that which has been worthy of note in reliable publications. (More info here.) czar 15:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I just left you a message actually - "50 primary source references" is very far from the truth. unless you consider peer-reviewed papers and newspapers primary sources now? i'm happy to discuss this but you need to read what i am saying Mujinga (talk) 15:24, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

The article was almost exclusively primary sources. I said 50 since that's the number you implied was usable. Would you prefer "45 primary source references"? I didn't count them in specific. What noteworthy content did not make the transfer to the new article? czar 16:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

You are betraying your ignorance of the topic. For example socialcentrestories may appear cruft to you but it was an 88 page pamphlet produced by academics at the end of the ERSC funded Autonomous Geographies project. On a quick count i see around 20 indisputably good sources, 20 self-links for projects. 15 of the latter are in one section, which you could have queried instead of trashing the entire page. I could go on.. anyway I prefer to talk further on RossPepier's talkpageMujinga (talk) 21:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

WP:RSN will not deem https://socialcentrestories.wordpress.com/about/ a reliable source for statements of fact. It has no hallmarks of editorial credibility. In fact, the booklet has every indication of self-publication. czar 21:51, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

@Czar Please do take it to WP:RSN Mujinga (talk) 09:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome to do that, but you need to start with what you want to cite it for czar 14:06, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

i simply cannot fathom your thought process here. feel free to try again. Mujinga (talk) 00:05, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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(no longer watching this page, please {{ping}} if needed) czar 13:48, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

@Czar: so, as i said before, if you want to go to WP:RSN, please do Mujinga (talk) 08:45, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

It's got to the stage now where I'm casually keeping an eye on Roger's talk page, and if I see a reply that fails to meet WP:CIVIL / WP:ADMINACCT then I'll just tell him off. I'm not inclined to block him, as civility blocks on admins can be highly controversial (though they have happened) and I probably wouldn't be inclined to do so anyway unless it was at the level of "why don't you **** off and pull your **** out of your ****" (fill in the blanks as appropriate). Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:31, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

All's well that ends well! Mujinga (talk) 10:13, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say thanks for creating a Focus E15 article. I recently added some info about Focus on the existing Carpenters Estate page so glad to see it - so important that this stuff gets documented :) Altcurrents (talk) 19:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

hiya yes agreed on the importance.and nice one for adding the photo of the banner, i found it at Carpenters Estate and was happy to use it :) feel free to add stuff for the article, i'm sure i've missed stuff out. and if you want to collaborate on similar pages please let me know! Mujinga (talk) 09:12, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

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