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Heinrich Marx, the father of Karl Marx, bought the small mansard roof building in Trier´s Simeonstrasse in 1819 ^[1] when Karl was only one year old. The later socialist grew up here with his parents and five siblings and moved out aged 17 after his graduation from secondary school (Gymnasium). Yet as a grown up man, he returned to Trier several times to visit his relatives. Compared to today, little has changed in the historical city center of Trier: The main characteristics of the old town around the market place have been preserved and looked more or less the same back in the days when Karl Marx lived there ^[2]. In particular the neighbourhood of the house to the Trier's most famous landmark, the Roman city gate Porta Nigra, is still impressive. In most parts unchanged to this day, it is likely that Karl Marx took the very same route to school every day that tourists can walk today ^[3]. The house in Simeonstraße had a lasting impact on Karl Marx, especially since he had been educated here in home schooling until the age of 12 ^[4]. As an adult, Karl Marx returned to live with his family in this house during his visits several times. For example in 1841 after his doctoral studies in Berlin, Marx travelled back to Trier. The main reason for his return home was to be close to his long-term fiancée Jenny von Westphalen. Also in the following year, 1842, Karl Marx spent some months in the house in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) in order to take care of family matters ^[5].

Location of the house The former home of Karl Marx in Simeonstraße 8 (then Simeongasse 1040) looks rather unremarkable at the beginning of Trier's shopping promenade close to the famous Porta Nigra. Only a few minutes walk leads visitors to the bronze statue of Karl Marx by Wu Weishan – a present from the People's Republic of China to Trier.

Moses Mordecai Levi, otherwise known as Karl Heinrich Marx (May 5, 1818-March 14, 1883) was a German-Jewish philosopher, economist, historian, revolutionary, and journalist from Trier, Germany. Prism Steno Book (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.
— Urro^{[talk][edits]} ⋮ 13:43, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not finding any reliable sources on this. The only ones I found were articles using his Jewish identity to attack him. Here is one very biased article that mentions Moses mordecai Levi https://www.news24.com/news24/karl-marx-and-his-hateful-dream-of-atheism-20120913

There is also a random reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/karlmarx/comments/riufhh/was_karl_marx_his_birth_name/

The only potentially legitimate source I found is this one where it says his paternal grandfather's name was Mordechai Levi

All the other sources are baseless conspiracy theories connecting him to the Rothschilds.

Please present reliable sources before starting a topic on talk pages. Frankserafini87 (talk) 21:06, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Little to nothing about the personal character or contradictions of Marx as a human being. Seems one sided. Not looking for character assassination but a more balanced view. Redonefifty (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any suggestions on what to add? Please elaborate a bit more Frankserafini87 (talk) 21:09, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Asking here because this is not mentioned at all in the article and I'm wondering if it's applicable JohnR1Roberts (talk) 12:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marx's family were not very religious Jews. After they converted, they were not very religious Christians either. Remsense ‥ 论 12:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heinrich Michael in Karl Marx and the Birth of Modern Society goes in detail why Heinrich Marx converted in chapter Karl's Marx Parents. Basically Heinrich converted so he could keep he's job as a lawyer. Darmato (talk) 18:54, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipedious1, the reason as initially given was and more concise, apologies. The notion "please don't revert without a good reason" would be mirrored by others like me as "don't make changes without a good reason"—you are also erasing work someone else has done and writing over it, after all. In general, lateral edits aren't something one should feel overly protective over; stability is a virtue. Remsense ‥ 论 04:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for what it's worth I meant to send some of this to you, but I fat-fingered the enter key immediately. Hence why I'm putting it all here. Sorry about that! I ask that you self-revert to restore the stable version of the lead, given your changes to it are being disputed. Remsense ‥ 论 05:00, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I self reverted to the stable edit.

Given my version mirrors what the article discusses in the legacy section, which is that marx's thought influenced communist revolution (this article has a section for successful revolutions that established communist governments & states)), what exactly do you have against that being mentioned in the lead?

I feel like my version makes more sense than just the mention of "revolutionary governments" which does not have a wiki page and is a bit more vague and also does not cover the full extent of Marx's legacy - Marx's legacy in politics is a lot more than just the 20th century states that were established. Every communist revolution (there being dozens of them) has Marxist thought as an ideological foundation, and is an extension of Marxism

To say the stable edit is "more concise" when it's a change of like 3 words and the addition of a link is a bit bizarre to me. Just to reiterate, I feel my changes are discussed later in the article in almost the exact way that I am proposing, just said differently. Wikipedious1 (talk) 05:10, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I feel a bit confused/frustrated because your initial justification for undoing my edit was "this needs to be discussed in legacy section", Yet when I make a new edit and quote for you exactly what is in legacy section, your reasoning changes to "the previous version is more concise" which doesn't make sense given that it is a very meager change. Wikipedious1 (talk) 05:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An edit summary can only contain so much—I understand frustrations with hiccups like these. Your first change didn't reflect the § Legacy section, but your second avoided that problem—it simply wasn't an improvement. As I said, I think stability of prose is of value in itself—a meager non-improvement remains a non-improvement. Remsense ‥ 论 05:19, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you feel that it is a "non-improvement"? I have outlined for you above why I believe it is an improvement and I want to understand your side of the argument.

The legacy section states, with my emphasis: "Politically, Marx's legacy is more complex. Throughout the 20th century, revolutions in dozens of countries labelled themselves "Marxist"—most notably the Russian Revolution, which led to the founding of the Soviet Union.[284] Major world leaders including (list of revolutionaries active in communist revolution) have all cited Marx as an influence. Beyond where Marxist revolutions took place, Marx's ideas have informed political parties worldwide.[294]"

In what way does this reflect your preferred version when the focus is on Marx's influences on various communist revolution and revolutionaries, and not necessarily the establishment of revolutionary governments (which, nevertheless, is certainly an aspect of successful communist revolution, but not the sole aspect of Marx's legacy re: revolution)? Wikipedious1 (talk) 05:28, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the double response but I would appreciate it if you can expound on why you believe my edits, which again is the change of 3 words and the addition of a link, interrupts the stability of the article's prose. Do you believe the discussion of Marxist influence on communist revolution in the legacy section also interrupts the stability of the article's prose? Wikipedious1 (talk) 05:31, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]