Talk:July–August 2022 United States floods

Split?

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I am asking for everyone’s opinion on whether or not the Kentucky section should be split into its own article. I already have a draft started. @Hurricanehink @WeatherWriter @ChessEric @GeorgeMemulous @TornadoLGS @Sir MemeGod 🌀 Hurricane Clyde 🌀 (talk) 18:12, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support I don't see why not. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 18:13, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Split by date

From what it seems to me, this article is about two different periods of flooding, one in late July and early August and the other in late August, with two or three weeks in between. They also affect mostly different states, with only Mississippi being affected by both, while the first flood also affected Arizona, California, Kentucky, Illinois, Missouri, Nevada, Virginia, and West Virginia, and the second flood also affected Texas and Utah, so it seems unlikely that residual ground saturation was a significant factor (although even if it was, there would still be precedent for splitting, e.g., September 2023 southwestern U.S. floods is in a different page from Hurricane Hilary). I therefore proposed that this article be split into Late July–early August 2022 United States floods and Late August 2022 United States floods or similar titles. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 06:19, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, the article is a bit unclear what the focus is. There is 2022 Appalachian floods already, so the main element of the existing article is the summer monsoonal floods over the western US, plus the Texas floods, Missisppi floods, and Illinois. It could be more useful having 2022 floods in the United States, and other yearly flood articles, to cover less significant flood events, than having an overview article like this, with a bunch of random events. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:17, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not opposed to implementing your idea in addition, but in this case, the first round of flooding and the second round of flooding each seems to have enough different sources to indicate that it has received enough coverage to justify an article. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 18:24, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By "first round of flooding", do you mean the western US floods? The met history portion of the article talks about it being the monsoon, so if it were to be split off, I'd rather something like the 2022 western United States monsoonal flooding. This article mentions how the 2022 monsoon was the 9th wettest on record, and this mentions the effects in Arizona. So I could see a split working. Likewise, the Missouri floods seem to be contained enough to be its own event, as evidenced by this NWS report. The August 2 Mississsippi flood doesn't seem notable enough on its own, as that's a separate event from the floods that caused the Jackson, Mississippi water crisis. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:47, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean the flooding in late July (continuing in some places into early August). This includes some western states like California but also some eastern states like West Virginia, which had a state of emergency declared by the governor on July 28th. I agree that that NWS page portrays the St. Louis area flood as individually important enough to have its own article. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 04:12, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I get that, and it's why I think yearly US flood articles would be better, for some of these lesser notable floods, and to stop big articles like this one from covering a lot of topics that are only loosely related. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:38, 6 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Although this isn't exactly what you were referring to, there is Floods in the United States (2000–present), which the non-notable Mississippi flood could be merged to in case it doesn't fit into any of the pages that we create. Here is one possible way to split things, merging the rest to Floods in the United States (2000–present).
  • Late July-early August flooding in California, Arizona, and Las Vegas Valley
  • Late July flooding in Missouri, western Illinois, and Kentucky
  • Late August flooding in Utah, Texas, and Mississippi, assuming that that was all caused by the same storm system
Does this seem good to you? Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 07:43, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Just checking, was the Utah/Texas/Kentucky event all from the same system? If so then I agree with the split. And yes, there's a big US flood list since 2000, I forgot about that, but it could be useful having yearly flood articles in the US. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 08:16, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the NWS's daily weather maps from August 19th to August 26th suggests that the answer is yes. This admittedly probably counts as synthesis, but I think that it's still fine to use this to assist in judgements about whether or not these belong in the same page as long as we don't explicitly state that in the article without better sourcing because they have temporal proximity anyway, so this wouldn't be the only factor in that decision. Care to differ or discuss with me? The Nth User 08:33, 7 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]
I do support splitting, given the very broad scope of the current article. Here is my proposal of how we could accomplish it.
We split these sections into separate articles:
  • Late July flooding in the St. Louis area (Maybe titled 2022 St. Louis floods or something similar).
  • Late July – Early August flooding in Kentucky and surrounding areas (handled by the existing 2022 Appalachian floods article).
  • Late July – Early August flooding in California, Arizona, and Nevada (Maybe titled July–August 2022 Western United States floods or something similar)
  • Late August flooding in Utah, Texas, and Mississippi could be split into one or more articles if notable enough, to a title yet to be determined.
Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 18:09, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]
@Hurricanehink‘s suggestion of 2022 Western United States monsoonal flooding is also a good idea for the western theater of this. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 18:11, 3 February 2026 (UTC)[reply]