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• Special:Diff/1275445445

It is good to see you getting involved in the long tail of geographic lies that infest our encyclopaedia, Doktoro, even if I suspect that you are only here because you are scanning the reference work for dirty pictures.

However, I do think that your inestimable skills are better served approving the onion railway submission here at articles for creation so that people can redirect some of this litany of hokum, hogwash, and horse feathers to it. I'll read chapter 5 of the Arcadia Book on Clark County.

I just have a few not-in-the-Hendricks-county-history false "communities" in Jefferson County, Indiana left to triage.

Uncle G (talk) 11:42, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I know you're using me as an intermediary to clear your tracks (get it), but everyone can tell this is you: the sfn stuff (OK, I did that too, but just once or twice], the Flickr linkdump, the Further reading section--it's obvious. Thanks for the instructions too, very kind. Have fun with Clark County: I'll look it up after I get my car serviced at Dick's Garage. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I couldn't get that garage for you, Doktoro. Not even its own WWW site claims that that is where it is, ironically. But it does seem that there's a little to write about three short roads forming a 110 by 130 metres (120 by 140 yd) rectangle in the middle of fields.

    Mangoe would have been all over Melham, South Dakota, but I got there first. That one was harder. I am convinced that its coördinates are wrong, since every source that I have has it on the Great Northern Railway which is not where its coördinates lead, but unhelpfully (and the reason that Mangoe would have really enjoyed that one) there is (fortunately, verifiably) nothing remaining there, it being literally a pin in the middle of an open field, and it is not on any 20th century map at all since 1953.

    This is why you get the interesting AFC work like onion railroads written up by journalists in IUP books, Doktoro. There is such a long tail here.

    Uncle G (talk) 21:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • That's all fine and dandy but we're missing out on Kurkureu su, which is shameful for a number of reasons. Two of them--it's the setting for Jamila, which I happen to be reading, and it's one of the rivers that's being improved in USAID's Smart Waters] project--I hope they got to finish it... Drmies (talk) 21:47, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • You probably mean the Kurkureu-Suu (Куркуреу су on the old maps), Doktoro, which (according to what source one reads) either actually is the upstream part of (in the Kyrgyz Republic) or is a tributary of the Asa in Kazakhstan. Uncle G (talk) 23:02, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • The sources differ, Uncle. Drmies (talk) 00:02, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is popular culture, Doktoro; Shalimov 1981, p. 24 tells me so. We can trust it to not be propaganda, right?

Uncle G (talk) 00:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! Haha you found a name that I had found also, and it gave me a chuckle last night: click on Ters. Drmies (talk) 00:36, 15 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Checkmate, Doktoro. ☺ Apparently Kurkureusu [kk] has maps. But your Жамийля wants the Kurkureu-Suu. Uncle G (talk) 07:47, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Valentine's Day! On the main page Edith Mathis, who portrayed young women by Mozart, the video of a 1993 interview has videos of her performances, - yesterday's story, and today's is related to that Valentin. - I saw my brother on stage, pictured in places, with food and flowers, - sharing with you! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I point at a composer today, as the main page does. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Cabin Creek, Indiana (AfD discussion)
• Did you know … that Philip K. Dick farmed near Farmland and had a part-interest in a grist mill on Cabin Creek?^{Tucker 1882, p. 471 harvnb error: no target: CITEREFTucker1882 (help)}

This would have been within your bailiwick, Doktoro, as the GNIS mess has hit one of your interests; albeit in some far away place. However, I have taken it on for you, so that you have the spare time for turning penises into geography. Uncle G (talk) 09:07, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't know if there are cabins in that village. Translating those few sentences is nothing, but translating that infobox etc., that will take me forever, so I'll leave that to an expert. Thank you for clearing up Ters. I'll have a look at that saint--but you know, Clifford is actually really interesting. Oh, Friday I'm presenting at a conference on that Beauvoir Club, where you helped me out with some of the famous people. I actually went to the Country Club a week or two ago--I kind of felt like a white subaltern. Drmies (talk) 15:37, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• "Ters" is really poorly attested, from what I've seen so far. I have asked Wouk for a copy of his article. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Maplesville, Alabama (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Although I have found for you a picture book that has an entire chapter about this (and two other chapters with the titles "Peach Capital" and "Reconstruction County"), I want you to ignore that, Doktoro. Do not get distracted by pictures, peaches, or Reconstruction.

Instead, if you want to impress the Alabarmy youth and get more of that youth cred, there's a whole historic railway depot section missing from the article. The youth of today want to know how the youth of a century ago took the railroad to skool (unlike how you swam to skool, yourself, as the lurkers will remember you relating). You will know when you're at the right sources when you find Danno Williams.

Uncle G (talk) 08:38, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• (talk page watcher) "Swam to skool?" No doubt it was uphill both ways. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 14:32, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Fun fact: some of my family members just drove by there and I told them about the railroad. You could catch a train from there to see the circus in Montgomery, back in 1905 or so, according to the ads in the Montgomery Advertiser. I'm presenting on the Beauvoir Club in a minute and I expect to see you there. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • You should have also told them that they were going from A to B via Cuba, Doktoro. That would have given them pause for thought. Uncle G (talk) 16:35, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The The Town and The People book is by two United Daughters of the Whatsit, and one of the lurkers or someone else will have to find out what and where the Alabarmy State Library is and extract the page numbers from it, and see what it says about very dead people.

I have also left you with the Old Southern Depot source to use. Try to ignore the fact that it incorrectly connects to the wrong Cuba.

In the meantime, Doktoro, I have been reminded of your liking for quiet calming furniture subjects, bringing peace in world full of checkuserering and staring at your socks. It's not quite furniture, but one of the sources that I pulled up has a subject that we seem to be missing. I shall see whether I can find a second source.

Uncle G (talk) 19:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Drmies. I was just wondering if any run of the mill editor can remove a derogatory statement from another user page? The statement about Bagumba is uncalled for and there seems to be a history brewing with editors who don't agree with User:GOAT_Bones231012. Btw, we were both mentioned on his Wall of Shame not too long ago. Any words to prevent me from a future block are greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:59, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Beware of the Haters and Wikipedia Mafia:

Completely unrelated to the above, please see below list of random users:

Drmies , SMcCandlish , Bringingthewood , Bagumba , GiantSnowman

• I saw it and removed it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, thank you. If you want, you could paste my message on my talk page .. no need for you to keep this garbage. I'll keep a civil tongue if this comes back to me. I truly appreciate your help. Regards, John. Bringingthewood (talk) 23:39, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Then again, maybe just a little more help, lol. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This was way out of control. I honestly want to know if I would have been blocked earlier, if I did such a thing. I've seen lesser crimes and editors are no longer here. At least three admins were listed on his page, that's a no-no in my book. Sorry if I raised your blood pressure with my messages, but I do appreciate everything that you did and are still doing. John. Bringingthewood (talk) 21:51, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I have two different medications for that so I'm good, I think. Yeah, we'll let this fester on for a little bit longer, it seems, but hey, at some point reason will prevail. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, sounds good. Thanks again. - Bringingthewood (talk) 22:17, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Bagumba! I'm presuming that you know that Kate DiCamillo turned Gilligan's Island into a minced oath in Flora and Ulysses. Someone must have mentioned it. I cannot be in the vanguard on this given that it's actually used as a punctuation example in teachers' guides to the book from 11 years ago. Doktoro is definitely not in the vanguard on these things, despite our collective, continued, and heroic efforts here to provide xem with youth cred. So there's going to be a whole generation of the youth of today, of a certain school age, before they learn the real words. On the other hand, you can claim to be holy, and {{cite YouTube}} as your source if anyone challenges that. ☺

Now, I have to get back to Marshall Fields and what to do about the Vida Lumber Company, a calming pre-furniture subject for Doktoro.

Uncle G (talk) 11:30, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Bloody Tebbel has me pluralizing Field's surname. But I have finally got there. I thought of the furniture-inspired calmness that you would feel, Doktoro, seeing me cite American Cabinetmaker and Upholsterer. Uncle G (talk) 11:24, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I saw your contributions to Jewish deli, looking good! I did notice however that you completely removed a section I wrote Next time talk to the person on their talk page, especially if it's a large edit. Thanks! Vestrix (talk) 23:34, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• No, Vestrix, that's not how it works, and you should really stop edit warring. Drmies (talk) 03:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • You know, I tried to talk to you, you could've responded sooner. I just feel like you lead me in to it. I'm sorry, I'm new to editing, instead of just a no thats not how it works, maybe an explanation of how it does work would be helpful Vestrix (talk) 03:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, you came here making condescending remarks and refused to address the matter that I raised in edit summaries, and that User:Yeshivish613 discussed on the talk page. Drmies (talk) 03:20, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey I don't know if you remember me but I previously informed you about a hoax on a userpage by User:Tomdav2747, who was subsequently blocked, but I'm here to inform you the user is back under the name Wrestler13285 who is causing disruptive editing and has a few hoaxes on his user page. Wonder if you can take a look for me? Cheers! Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:33, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also note the exact same editng pattern, always editing his own talk page and a rare few edits on something else (mostly disruptive). Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:36, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My dear colleague Bbb23 handled it. Bbb, thanks; maybe you know I don't have my special glasses anymore. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, I didn't know. If there was an announcement, I missed it. What happened? Please e-mail me if you prefer.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I will at some point. We all kept it quiet, I guess, to save me from the embarrassment. Drmies (talk) 02:08, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry. I hope you're not upset.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

—Ganesha811 (talk) 00:03, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Whilst you were knowing pasteurized French people, Doktoro, AFD Patrol got me a wild change of pace from Yankeepedia and Pommiepedia: New South Wales and the City of North Sydney (AfD discussion). Crikey! Uncle G (talk) 08:43, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, so, the Megafauna Man Vandal is back, and has been using this talkpage as a sandbox for their megafauna nonsense, and has been using about six different IPs to edit it, as well as perform their other unconstructive editing since the 17th of February. And I'm wondering should I just go ahead and report all of them to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism or ask you or another admin to block all of these active IP socks? Thank you for your time in hearing me out. Mr Fink (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:139.195.164.225 has edits from the following IPs: 139.0.86.192 + 139.195.138.77 + 139.195.164.225 + 149.113.25.121 + 149.113.25.179 + 149.113.26.152 + 149.113.40.167.

These IPs are in ranges: 139.0.86.192 + 139.195.128.0/18 + 149.113.0.0/18. Johnuniq (talk) 05:49, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I blocked the IP and the two ranges for a month. Johnuniq (talk) 07:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you thank you. Mr Fink (talk) 14:23, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Fink thanks for stopping by--Johnuniq, thanks for taking care of business. Drmies (talk) 14:31, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Literary work (AfD discussion)

We have the English Professor Vacuum maintaining its continual inward suction by having a complete absence of any English professors whatsoever here, Doktoro, but I am thinking at the moment that it would be unwise to do the same for philosophy professors. Stick a handful of them into a room and ask them what a book is, and they'll come up with three competing schools of thought all with their own -isms and -ists, a solemn explanation of the ontology of an abstract manifold of a set of leaf-forms carrying signifiers for a social construct of lexemes, several critiques pointing out that sets are not ordered, and at least one rebel explaining that everyone else is wrong because they all forgot that books can have pictures.

All that said, John M. Ellis is a German professor.

Uncle G (talk) 00:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Don't even get me started on Book history, which as you can see, doesn't even exist, though we have an article on Book History, a journal devoted to the topic. And we've got History of books (which ones, I wonder?) instead of History of the book, which rather morosely redirects there. Little wonder that we can't tell the difference between Literary work and Literature... -- asilvering (talk) 10:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Asilvering you say "literature" like we know what it is. Drmies (talk) 16:25, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    No more or less than we understand what Art or Music are, I suppose. -- asilvering (talk) 18:34, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Aargh! Sociology! That's even harder to write than philosophy, if anything. Although we really all should put a little brown box here at Articles for creation so that Doktoro can get some sociology credits in. The credits all add up at the end of the year, Doktoro.

    I found Jean-Michel Chahsiche and John Raimo straightaway, but the question is are they good places to start. Peter Lamarque was obvious for literature. As you can see xe did the literature chapters for some Routledges and Blackwells, and xe and Olsen were oft-cited by others. Chahsiche and Raimo are chapter 14 in the Routledge ISBN 9780367553258 but it's not obvious that they are a good place to start. They go on to begin with Roger Chartier and D. F. McKenzie (Donald McKenzie (academic) to xyr close friends). Although ISBN 9781134380060 seems an interesting source. The title is somewhat of a clue.

    Doktoro:

    Did you know … that William J. Mitchell once described books as "tree flakes encased in dead cow"?

    I can cite not only a an Indianianana University professor and person of culture (Ted Striphas) as a source but even an English professor (Graham Holderness) as a source for that. A bit of Aussie straight talking to set all of these -ologists right.

    Uncle G (talk) 12:13, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • DF McKenzie is the big name. Can't get through grad school in book history without having to read Bibliography and the Sociology of Texts. (Or, well, without having pretended to read it, anyway.) -- asilvering (talk) 18:32, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Alas, to be an encyclopaedist one has to read the books. After reading the sociology books, one spends at least a day speculating on the fact that, whilst not epistemologically unsound and certainly not in abstract a priori forbidden by any innate attribute of the ideal forms that cannot be overcome at least in a topological sense, yet nonetheless as a result of historio-cultural influences that have deep roots in human praxis that seemingly admit of few cultural restrictions let alone an explicit semiosis, one always puts on one's socks before one's shoes.

        And what is a shoe?

        Uncle G (talk) 23:02, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

        • Alas, to be an encyclopaedist one has to read the books. Look out, uncle, or someone might get you for original research. -- asilvering (talk) 23:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • All this got me to devote a section of "what is literature" to the English Lit 1 survey class yesterday. Thanks for the book suggestion: there's good used copies on Amazon and I'm getting one. Drmies (talk) 15:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • If you don't like it, we can't be friends, so don't tell me. -- asilvering (talk) 16:45, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
              • Haha you're actually DF McKenzie and you work on retirement by making your students buy your books? In my case, that's $300 a pop and serves them no purpose! Drmies (talk) 17:07, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

                Alas, I'm not that smart. Also, he died before I even got to grad school. -- asilvering (talk) 17:12, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see from Talk:literary work, I think that literature#Definitions needs some improvement. Seeing what LEvalyn wrote, I might tackle it in the way that I suggested, although I am still in the mucklands with the sweetcorn at the moment.

But I thought that I would quickly knock together something that you could use in your well-lit class in the meantime, Doktoro.

It is very reliable. It is from a really good source that I found that even had "What is Literature?" as its title and was published by Wiley and edited by an English chair; which, being the furniture lover that you are, I know that you will appreciate. Almost all of the authors are bluelinked, too. What better sign of reliability could one get?

I hope that two paragraphs is enough for the class, Doktoro. Otherwise I might have to pull out a second book.

Uncle G (talk) 18:28, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• OOOOOH very nice. That will go great with the candy bars I bought my students (all three of em) at the Indian grocery store. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:14, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I saw your modifaction to Colors Infinity: I know Wikipedia is not a TV guide, but can I take the list and put it in a page I could call List of programs broadcast by Colors Infinity, like they did for many other pages? What do you think, beacuse it that list of Colors Infinity I saw many sources Filippo.g204 (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Personally I don't think that's a good idea. WP:NLIST has guidance, and I doubt that programs from that pay-channel have "been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources"... Discussed--not mentioned or verified. Drmies (talk) 16:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • So those sources were not reliable? Filippo.g204 (talk) 17:01, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well, reliability is important, but here the key word is "discussed". Material needs to be actually discussed, not just mentioned as happening at some time on some channel. I'm not saying anything about whatever sources you're pointing at because I don't have those, but the guidelines says we need discussion and it needs to be in proper sources, not just blogs or Facebook posts. Does that make sense? Drmies (talk) 18:19, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Today: Carmen turns 150, as the main page and my story tell you. I chose a 1962 concert of the Habanera, - enjoy! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you take a look at 116.212.152.74? You blocked the IP based on CheckUser evidence three months ago. That block expired today, and it looks like the same person is still editing from that address. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:26, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Yeah, I can't do that anymore. I can't even see the logs. Drmies (talk) 04:06, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• I was just about to block the IP for 6 months, but Girth Summit beat me to it with a one-year CU block. It's pretty obvious who the IP is, and I'm not even familiar with the SPI.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:33, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher)Sir Sputnik - I can see the logs, and thanks to Drmies' excellent edit summaries (check summaries?), I've reblocked, for a year this time. Drmies - I'm not aware of your reason for stepping away from the took, but I'll miss having you on the team. Girth Summit _(blether) 14:34, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Not a involved party or sysop) There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ✏️ C809 ⌨️ (let's chat) 05:21, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

adding link to thread -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:31, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Special:Diff/1279040047 is quite right. Who on Earth thinks that that's proper biographical article writing? Uncle G (talk) 10:58, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, a hobbyist, right? Someone not interested in how a certain place runs and how their own interests might fit in. Anyway, I think User:Jessicapierce is doing a lot of good work, and they've been here longer than me! Shock! Jessicapierce, I love your first edit. I had no idea we had such a page, BTW. François Vatel still needs work! ;) Drmies (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wow, I'd forgotten all about that cleanup page! And had no idea that was my first edit. It's very funny to me that it's a grumpy complaint about Chantilly cream, posted about a year before I got a job as a baker. Thanks for digging that up, and thanks for all you do around here - I see your username just about every day. You are appreciated! Jessicapierce (talk) 16:10, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thank you. You were a baker! Props. For the life of me I can't find a decent biography of Vatel--but I'm sure my uncle will post six of them in the next hour. Drmies (talk) 16:33, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Well there's a history of cooking, Doktoro. And some stuff written in Foreign, that you will have to translate for us. But my hands are currently full of sources for people who ruined Zellwood, Florida with sweetcorn. Which is not part of the fish course. Uncle G (talk) 18:07, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • Young, Carolin C. (2002). "Showing Off: Nicolas Fouquet Impresses the King". Apples of Gold in Settings of Silver: Stories of Dinner as a Work of Art. Simon and Schuster. pp. 118–120. ISBN 9780743222020.
          • Michel, Dominique (1999-11-24). Vatel et la naissance de la gastronomie (in French). Éditions Fayard. ISBN 9782213605135.
            • Those poor swamp puppies were the first to pray the price for all that sweetcorn, huh. Drmies (talk) 21:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]