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Literally every month without fail, at some point during the month a run of Special:WantedCategories suddenly throws up a redlinked category of the "Wikipedia Today's featured article nominations from [Current Month and Year]" variety (e.g. Category:Wikipedia Today's featured article nominations from July 2024) which I end up having to create on your behalf, even though I'm not normally involved in this project, because of the rule around not leaving stuff in redlinked categories. So if such categories are routinely expected to exist, then would it be possible for this project to take steps to ensure that they get created either by a project member as soon as they're needed, or automatically by a bot at the beginning of the month, before they turn into work for other projects to clean up? Bearcat (talk) 20:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea. I've been a coordinator for seven years and I have no idea what this is. At a guess, I'd say it's something produced by the template when TFA/R nominations are created. Wehwalt (talk) 21:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bearcat and Wehwalt: these categories are a direct effect of a TFAR being accepted and scheduled. See for example Category:Wikipedia Today's featured article nominations from October 2024 where all of the five TFAs were placed in the monthly category by edits like this, made either by Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) or by SchroCat (talk · contribs), who used {{subst:TFAR top|monthyear=October 2024|passed=y|date=November 28, 2024}} (or something similar). So I think that it's up to these people to notice the redlink that may appear in the category box following an edit like that, and to create the category page to suit. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:12, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, except they very routinely don't, because it always, every month without fail, gets picked up by the WantedCategories report and thus always, every month without fail, ends up becoming my job. Bearcat (talk) 20:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I guess the two obvious questions I have are, is it worth having categories like this, and in either case, what's the most efficient course of action? Wehwalt (talk) 20:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Having read the discussion to this point three times I have no idea what it is about, what if anything I am doing wrong, or how if at all I need to amend my practices. Would it be possible for someone to talk it through a level or two down? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:42, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: OK. When SchroCat made this edit on 3 October 2024 (and I'm sure that it was a correct action), it put Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Wells Cathedral 1 into Category:Wikipedia Today's featured article nominations from October 2024, but the category page didn't exist at the time - Bearcat had to create it themselves the following day after being alerted by the presence of that cat in Special:WantedCategories. It's something that they have been going on about at VPT and other places for months, if not years. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, I think. Is there a way to automate the creation so we are sure not to cause you any further problems? Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or, alternatively, to alter the code so that this is no longer created? Because I suspect it gets next to no page views. As you saw by my initial reaction, it's not something useful in TFA land.Wehwalt (talk) 21:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Is there a point to Wikipedia Today's featured article nominations from October 2024? I'm new to scheduling and it's already an involved multi-step process, so not adding yet another step would be the better pathway. - SchroCat (talk) 04:52, 15 October 2024 (UTC) - SchroCat (talk) 04:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The categorisation was added to Template:TFAR top by Bencherlite (talk · contribs), the template's creator. Why it was done, or if it is necessary, I don't know; but Bencherlite is WP:MIA so can't be asked. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They don't look terribly high traffic or useful - to me at least. There's also nothing in the archives of this page or of Bench's talk page where there was a discussion that led to it. It seems superfluous to requirements. - SchroCat (talk) 09:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Simply remove the code that produces this and no more problem, and we don't get talked about on VPT, wherever that is, and elsewhere. Can we agree to do this? Wehwalt (talk) 16:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

VPT = WP:VPT. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I boldly removed it in this diff. Someone please double confirm it for me, perhaps @Redrose64 ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 23:32, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Shushugah: The edit looks fine to me. If you require any further input from me, please WP:MENTION me as I shall unwatch this page after saving this post. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:19, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's a draft schedule for April here. Comments welcome at the foot of the page. If there are any late submissions for the month, we can see about juggling things around to fit it in. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A few years back, I nominated Socrates Nelson. This was met with agreement and was scheduled until an editor post-nomination felt the article wasn't correctly promoted to FA status, brought that up, and proceeded to change the article to what they felt was appropriate. My question now is that Wehwalt suggested "there be a further TFA/R before it is again scheduled", but the instructions at WP:TFA/R seemingly do not account for a renomination, and I personally don't know how to do this. Presently I want to wait until March 3rd of 2026 for the TFA, but I'd like to learn how to do this ahead of time. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 02:05, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There was a TFA/R originally , so just re-open that.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would expect you to notify the participants in the previous discussion. I'd expect March to open up for nominations about New Year's. Wehwalt (talk) 03:00, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]