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The result was merge to Scouting Nederland. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong language. Nathanhillinbl (talk) 15:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Wait it out - Subject seems notable, though I can't be sure. I have tagged it as an article needing translation. According to policy, if it is not translated in 2 weeks, it will be listed for deletion. NOTE- If anyone knows the language, please Google translate. Thanks. AvN 15:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT - The language is Dutch. Google translation. Seems notable enough. The translation is also accurate, so it can be kept if no one rewrites. I !vote keep, rewrite/translate. AvN 15:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I translated the article, and can find no references whatsoever anywhere. The Dutch article is also at their AfD, and it has just as little as ours had (I deleted some info I deemed trivial). The link provided by the editor above gives nothing about our club. 207.157.121.50 (talk) 18:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean references in the article, that's not a reason to delete the article itself. A Google search throws up a plethora of third-party references, implying that even though it might be of local significance, it is quite notable. AvN 04:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge with the main Scouting in the Netherlands article. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scouting and Guiding in the Netherlands redirects to Scouting Nederland as the only national Scouting organization. As best I see, this is a local group of Scouting Nederland. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:39, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is, but being the first such local chapter in the Netherlands would make it notable enough for its own entry. The real issue is that it needs independent verification because it's an exceptional claim that could be countered. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with the main Scouting in the Netherlands article.-Phips (talk) 15:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• merge even if notable, the oldest Finnish and Indian troops went back into their national articles. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 17:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain the rationale behind merge even even if notable ? Isn't notability the main criterion? AvN 17:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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