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Happy editing! I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 04:35, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Greater Manchester bus route 103 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Advice for taking photos

If you find that there are giant and (no offence) unsightly light trails coming out from your photos (such as File:METL VWH2406 R6.jpg), I suggest that you wipe your camera/phone lens with a cloth (or if you don't have one wet tissue paper also works) to clean your lens before taking the photo so that those light trails can be reduced. A bit of light trails (such as File:BNGNW 6241 R20.jpg) is fine, but when it's too large it can become a nuisance and may actually fall afoul of existing guidelines regarding images. This is especially so for night photos since the light rays come out larger than during the day. Hope this can help you in taking bus photos in future. S5A-0043🚎(Leave a message here) 02:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Suggestion on inclusion of images

Hi once more,

I'd thought I'd stop in once more and give my rationale on the use and layout of images on certain Wikipedia articles, because I do think that in some cases, the inclusion of your own images to articles such as Go North West, Alexander Dennis Enviro400EV and others is bordering on a bit excessive, and may therefore be distrupting the layout of articles. The Manual of Style section on images has a really good quote on this:

Images must be significant and relevant in the topic's context, not primarily decorative; each image in an article should have a clear and unique illustrative purpose. [...] However, not every article needs images, and too many can be distracting: usually, less is more.

On that suggestion, if you're able to get to one, I'd recommend that because you're mostly (if not all the time) doing your photo uploads and edits through the Wikimedia/Wikipedia mobile client while you're travelling, go find a desktop computer or laptop, open up the operator and route pages you edit (e.g. Go North West), and take a look at how your images are laid out on the page compared to the headers and reference lists. If you ask me, the current revision falls off the page, knocks images out from the headers they fall under, and squishes the reflist down to one column. And while I get there were no Bee Network images available at the time of the linked revision, compare that to how it was beforehand, including the standard two-column reflist arrangement.

Same goes for Alexander Dennis Enviro400EV: three Bee Network images, including one in the infobox, are a bit much when you consider the 'spread' of operators who run different variants of the Enviro400EV, and as before, the two-column reflist is now shrunken to one. The FCEV section, left blank in the hopes of securing an image up in Liverpool, now has a BYD EV image now clashing with it, and If I'm going to be brutally honest, the infobox image really didn't need replacing at this point in time. Afraid I'm considering a manual revert to tidy things up.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be including images at all for Wikipedia, hell no: I think your best effort, personally, was for providing images for day one of Metroline Manchester back on 5 January. But I'm just hoping you see my side of things, because I'd rather the article focus on the textual, citable content within as opposed to the photos depicting the subject - e.g. the image you originally included in the infobox for Manchester Piccadilly Gardens bus station, which failed to depict the bus station at all and therefore constituted replacement with an older image. Policy states that Wikipedia pages aren't your personal photo gallery, so therefore, I'd say try thinking about including a select few images instead of trying to cover, say, every single bus type used by a Manchester operator; speaking from experience, Flickr is a better place for uploading the photos that may not make the cut for Wikipedia. Hullian111 (talk) 10:49, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to create bus route articles but many of them failed to stay, so I focused on providing photos instead on creating such articles, not to waste my effort again. TL9027 (talk) 11:56, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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