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Shyamal 02:15, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jude,

Hey. Thanks for helping edit the New World Vultures (King and Turkey). I just wanted to tell you that I've been working on the King Vulture article in my sandbox and will be posting it soon (two more copyedits or so). I've put in the new source you added today, but most of the description stuff is already in there. Not to sound overbearing (though this probably does come off that way, and I apologize), but could you make any future King Vulture edits directly in my sandbox until the article goes live? This way I won't accidently miss something you added when I copy and paste it in. Thanks, and I hope you vote for the New World Vultures on the Bird Featured Topic page. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Thanks for fixing those refs at the King Vulture article- I noticed them earlier, but had no earthly idea what was wrong. Anyways, thanks for your help, both at King Vulture and all vultures. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:24, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jude, I noticed that you made a new range map for Peregrine Falcon today. Is that a one-time thing, or do you now know how to make range maps? I haven't heard from 'Card recently and a range map is pretty much the only major objection raised to the King Vulture FAC. Could you make one? There are examples at www.natureserve.org and animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/king-vulture.html. Thanks (and hopefully some more thanks). Rufous-crowned Sparrow 22:00, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. That map looks absolutely outstanding. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Could you by any chance teach me how to do those? Anyways, wow. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 22:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't really researched the GY-hV much, but I am assuming that their data is pretty similar to the LY-hVs since they were the same species until the 70s or something. If you type in Greater Yellow-headed Vulture on Google Books, the first one has a lot of info on the Lesser that I am planning on using and the start of the Greater. If one of us can track that book down (or maybe someone else in the project owns it), I bet that will have a lot of info.

Also, thanks for working on expanding the Turkey Vulture and finding this much on the Greater Yellow-headed Vulture. You have a whole lot more info on it than I even thought was out there. Thanks. (Oh, and I should upload King Vulture tonight or tomorrow (EST). Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I honestly don't know how much longer the Greater Yellow-headed Vulture article should be for GA. We really need a picture to plug in of the bird- I'm not sure if it could really pass otherwise. There has to be one somewhere. I'm going to work on the vultures more over the next four days (Fall Break), but it should probably get another 4,000 or so bytes. It is at 12,210, while GA Dusky Woodswallow is at 8170 (with photo) and FA Elfin-woods Warbler is at 16,977. I'm going to actually read both articles tonight (haven't had a chance yet) and will look for more sources. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 02:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My guess is that it could pass GA without it, but as you said it is definately perferable to have a picture. I'm currently taking my first real look at the GY-hV article, but according to my printed version it does not yet have a Conservation or Relationship with Humans section. I'll swing by BirdLife and make the Conservation, but have you seen anything on GY-hVs in mythology, culture, or zoos?

Also, I'm seriously thinking about throwing King Vulture at FAC soon unless someone raises a major objection (or just tells me that I'm crazy). Its as long as several of the FAs (Elfin-woods Warbler, Emu) and I don't know how much more info we can find. I'm looking into having someone make a range map (he did California Condor's), but do you by any chance make them? Rufous-crowned Sparrow 23:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jude,

I think that the Greater Yellow-headed Vulture article has enough information to become a good article (if in doubt, look at how short most of the bird GAs are). However, it needs a good copyedit or three. Let me play with it for, say, 24 hours before you nominate. I'll also try to add a habitat picture so it doesn't look so dull. Thanks with all of your help with the NWVs. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 23:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gone through it once now, will go through at least once more. Two quickies- could you convert both ends of the metric units to English units for the centimeters and stuff? Most of them are in the Description, but I recall there being more. Also, the lead could be expanded- will try to add on myself. Also, what does evaporatively mean in the urohidrosis? An explanation or something would help. (Just noticed the wikilink) Anyways, I think it looks pretty good. I'd like to give it one more copyedit in the next 23 hours, and, assuming the above if fixed, go for GA (in my humble opinion). Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could you make an Andean Condor range map? Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:34, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I gave the article another copyedit. In my opinion, it should pass GA easily. I'd review it myself, but I have a feeling that that would be considered a conflict of interest. I wonder how long it will take. Anyways, good job on the article and thanks for the Andean Condor map. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yay! Congrats on getting the GY-hV passed, and so quickly too. I thought, judging by past experience, it would be there for about a month. This featured topic is really moving along. I'll take a look at the Lesser Y-hV article, but, with that GA, that only leaves Andean Condor, which I plan on having about FA status by Monday, Turkey Vulture, which, to use a bad analogy, is trying to find a space in the FA parking lot, then New World Vulture itself, the biggest remaining challenge (hopefully Sabine's Sunbird, who has written the only two bird family articles, and Casliber and JerryFriedman (both have expressed interest) will help out, and American Black Vulture, which I've got on slate after the Condor, are the only ones left. (whew, that is a long sentence.) Anyways, congrats and lets follow this thing through!

Just printed off my copy of the LY-hV article and noted that the Greater seems to be the subject in some of the sections. I changed it to Lesser, but are you sure that the behavior of the species is that similar?Rufous-crowned Sparrow 21:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rufous-crowned Sparrow 21:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just went over and reviewed the Turkey Vulture article. After a copyedit, it looked good to me, though I would suggest fiddling with the pictures a bit. Also, I asked Shyamal to do some sketches of the two Y-hVs. She has done an in-flight of the Greater but cannot find some good head shots. I'm planning on looking tomorrow, but if you know any you might want to drop them off with her.

Also, I was really busy in real life this past weekend, so Andean Condor remains unworked on. However, I've got free time (as in right now) and am going to start hand-writing my paragraphs.

Cheers and happiness. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 00:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I've got Wendsday and Thursday off, so I'll look at Black Vulture before finally working on Andean Condor. Also, I've got some information on Black Vultures in Maya hieroglypics to plug in. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 20:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good article, I was about to review it...but you might want to check the first 2 sentences in the diet section...."it exists entirely on carrion" but "also hunts". Maybe it exists "mostly" on carrion? Other than that, great job! I'm going to use it to compare a few articles I've been working on (Blue iguana and Green iguana before nominating them.--Mike Searson 00:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that was fast. So fast, that I've actually found a couple of additional localities that weren't in the last review article on the taxon. There are additional sites in India, china, and in Nepal. Hold off on updating, since I'm still looking into additional sites, but thanks for the map. --EncycloPetey 01:34, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've run out of leads on new localities now. --EncycloPetey 01:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. Is the creation of distribution maps something you're willing to do on a sporadic basis? There are a few other bryophyte articles nearly ready for a distribution map. --EncycloPetey 02:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Look at our article on syrinx, it makes no mention of the context you are using it in. -- John Reaves 16:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just got through looking the article over. I think that it is ready for a FAC. However, before you do so, a few quickies. First, could you put the describer's full name and link it in each of the subspecies? Does anyone mention the bird's peak breeding season? And could you get the external links up to 4-5 good ones (movies are nice). After this, go for FA. Thanks for all of your hard work. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 05:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with above - found Bechstein. I reckon yer ready to go...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RcS says you're doing maps now. Could you do one for Variegated Fairy-wren which is at FAC if I send a distribution map through? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great - actually I just uploaded it and here is a thumb:

File:Img 3706 email.jpg

. Let me know if you cant read anything etc. I stuck it on WP rather than commons as I'll delete it once done. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that was quick! thanks - 2 things - would be great if the M l lamberti text with coloured box aligned under the rogersi, I am happy with the colours but maybe some other folks will think they are not contrasty enough. Blue was a good choice due to the little critters' colour - the 2 at the top are called lavender flanked x so various shades of purple may be useful too. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS:I'll get round to Black Vultuer later on today. gotta run. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jude,

I've been going through the Northern Cardinal article and have noticed that you talk about American Goldfinches as a subject in the lead I have a feeling that this is a mistake. Just a heads up. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 03:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thought we were all done, but I caught something new to add to the article. VanTucky ^Talk 05:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jude,

I'm currently swamped with work- ie, in addition to what I normally do, I now have a magazine to make by th 21st. I will be on break until then. However, I am still planning on doing the Andean Condor and in fact have all the papers I need by my bed. It should be done by the day after Thanksgiving. Just thought I'd let you know- feel free to delete this message. Rufous-crowned Sparrow 01:27, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Would you please create a distribution map for this species? The country data may be found at this site. Thanks. --EncycloPetey 22:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:01, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was in WA and took a cool photo of this critter, and as it has more published research than the Variegated Fairy-wren I polished it up for FAC. There is a distribution map here though the monograph-type book I have does not have the wedge-shaped bit sticking eastowards along the south coast of Western Australia (the line above keeps going SSW to the coast). This critter has no subspeices so one colour is fine. All help much appreciated - and feel free to lemme know of any fixes before I toss it up at FAC in the next few days. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yer a $%^#*^#*^ champion. ;) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:22, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Jude! Good to see that you are back. I don't recall adding the specifications to the article so don't have a sourcr. I'll look for it though. I'll see what I can add to what you've already done. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you haven't checked Google yet, here is the list of websites I made for myself when I was going to work on it. I'll chip in with some, but if you want them...

http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Condor/files/issues/v044n01/p0030-p0032.pdf

http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Condor/files/issues/v071n01/p0073-p0075.pdf

http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/Condor/files/issues/v075n01/p0060-p0068.pdf

http://www.clemetzoo.com/rttw/condor/allabt.htm

http://www.clemetzoo.com/rttw/condor/history.htm

http://www.clemetzoo.com/rttw/condor/behavior.htm

http://www.clemetzoo.com/rttw/condor/habitat.htm

http://www.peregrinefund.org/explore_raptors/vultures/andcondr.html

http://www.peregrinefund.org/explore_raptors/vultures/blackvul.html

http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/Birds/Facts/FactSheets/fact-andeancondor.cfm

http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/birds/andean-condor.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_andeancondor.html

http://www.sandiegozoo.org/animalbytes/t-andean_condor.html

http://cres.sandiegozoo.org/projects/rb_condor_andean.html

http://www.rainforest-alliance.org/programs/education/teachers/curriculum/resources/documents/AndeanCondorspeciesprofile.pdf

http://www.ecology.info/condors.htm

I think I'll be able to chip in some tonight. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 21:51, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great job on the page. I'll give it a thorough readthrough tomorrow, see what I can add. Sorry I wasn't more of a help, but I'm glad that the websites at least were useful. Again, great job from what I have read so far. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 03:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Jude. The final stretch for the New World Vulture FT is here now that Andean Condor got featured. Congrats on that. Now that we’re down to New World vulture (which I’ll be more active in on Saturday after the SAT, I promise), what are your thought on how to proceed? The biggest issue that I can think of is the exclusion of Cathartes, the only non monotypic genera. Since there has never been an organism-based FT before, do you think we should post a message at the talk page for FTs and see what they think or nominate and wait? Personally, I don’t think that a family-based FT would need all of the genera, but I’m not the expert.

Also, how do you think we should treat the order status in the taxoboxes for the vultures? Some have it in Cicionnes (sp badly), while others have it as uncertain. We probably need to unify that. Also, what picture do you think should be used as the lead pic for both New World Vulture and the FT box? I’m not a big fan of the one in there now, and the American Black Vulture lead pic is featured and shows the whole bird. Too bad we don’t have a multi-species pic.

Anyways, thank you for all of your contributions and lets wrap this thing up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk • contribs) 21:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply- busy times for me. Hope your exams are going well. Anyways, I'll leave a note at the FT page to see what their take on genera is. I don't know when I'll be able to help out at Cathartidae- again, there should be more hours in a day. I'll also change the taxoboxes to match Andean Condor's at some point. Thanks. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 02:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey jude, I have a favour to ask WRT maps if you have any time free - it is for Amanita ocreata, a mushroom which occurs from Baja California to Washington state and inland to the foothills of the Sierra Nevada range. Not sure how far inland that is though as my geography of california ain't that good. Do you have any maps handy to work on or shall I find a couple...All input greatly appreciated..cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Love it - the pale blue on dark grey looks cool. thanks! cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have a little problem at FAC - a reviewer thought the choice of blue was a little unfortunate as it is next to the coastline and hence potentially confusing....I haven't played with .png's before but need to tweak the colour to something else (not fussed, whatever looks nice...). If you're still around I'd be really grateful. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casliber (talk • contribs) [reply]

Uh oh... needs to be altered to the sum of the distribution maps on these four pages:

• http://www.cnr.vt.edu/DENDRO/dendrology/Syllabus2/factsheet.cfm?ID=548
• http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/silvics_manual/Volume_2/quercus/chrysolepis.htm
• http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/silvics_manual/volume_2/quercus/garryana.htm (excluding the BC/Vancouver Island distribution of this species)
• http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=6906&flora_id=1
• http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=6001&flora_id=1 (Again, excluding its BC distribution)

Not sure if you're around. If you see this message after a few days, let me know and I'll see if someone else has done it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jude, thanks a heap for what you've done. Peter (who's the expert) thinks we need to trim the BC distribution off the map. I really appreciate the effort and sorry about the last correction. :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

		The Mapmaker's Star
		For all the maps and great patience shown. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Jude: While answering a question for someone re: the presence of American Black Vultures in Maryland, I had a chance to look at the map you made for the article. I think it might need slight modification, because it doesn't seem to show it far enough north along the east coast. It's definitely a regular species into New Jersey and Pennsylvania—and perhaps even further north (it's been some years since I lived there), but the map seems to show it petering out in Virginia or even further south... MeegsC | Talk 07:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hye Jude, you got time to whip up a map? If not is ok, but I would be grateful :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• File:Willie Wagtail rangemap.jpg

  - don't worry about red and pink, just combine them into one colour. I have uploaded an image temporarily which i will delete once an image is made. thx ++ Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:46, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• PS: I hope you have this map saved as this %&&($#% bot keeps trying to remove it. I uploaded it as Fair Use and it is notifying me it is an orphaned article (grrr) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Hey jude, I saw you and your awesome username pop up on my watchlist and I couldn't help but stop in to say hello. From one user with a Beatles song-related username to another, I hope only the best for your Wiki endeavors. :) María (habla conmigo) 16:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Jude, We are looking for help on the Pope John Paul II article in order to improve it and raise it to ‘Good Article’ and eventually ‘Featured Article’ status. So, I though I would invite you to take a look. Any help would be much appreciated. Kind Regards Marek.69 ^talk 02:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]