- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge into either a new list article, or a sub-section of All American Racers. In any case, most editors expressed the view that redirecting and merging was an alternative to outright deletion. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:10, 2 April 2025 (UTC)
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Non-notable racecar that ran in one race series. No secondary sourcing in the article, nor could I find any online from a basic search. Initially tagged this for single source and not meeting GNG, and an editor responded by adding two database entries that don't say a word about the car. The article calls it "entirely unsuccessful" though the sole source that says anything about the car (from its manufacturer, so both primary and non-independent) doesn't even support that. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- A couple of things, if you look at the sources i added, they are for the results, and 12th wasn't in the points for the series, so as I stated, it was unsuccessful, regardless of what Eagle had to say about the matter. Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as it stands, it's a clear GNG failure, but there is a potential alternative to deletion here if sources can improve - merging this with Eagle 997 and then adding other Eagle products to List of chasses made by Eagle or something similar. SportingFlyer T·C 09:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldnt the creation of that list require also the deletion of all the other cars in Category:Eagle racing cars though? Vantage-TWR (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Those can be taken to their own individual AFDs if you see fit. The topic of this discussion is the Eagle 987. Frank Anchor 02:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wouldnt the creation of that list require also the deletion of all the other cars in Category:Eagle racing cars though? Vantage-TWR (talk) 22:17, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Currently fails GNG but redirecting it to Eagle 997 and adding to suggested list by SportingFlyer would be best course here. Nyasalones (talk) 13:34, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect and possible selective merge per SportingFlyer. Fails GNG due to lacking the SIGCOV needed for a standalone article. Frank Anchor 14:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I hope the participants arguing for Deletion can be more clear in what they are arguing for because you are also stating that you are for a Redirection and/or Merge. There can only be one outcome so please don't give a closer different options.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:38, 25 March 2025 (UTC)- i personally think that a list should be made of the Eagle indy/champ car chassis, then this and the other Eagle cars will be redirected to said list Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this suggestion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- then just make some bare bones list, and the current pages can be dumped onto the new page Vantage-TWR (talk) 00:13, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to this suggestion. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:22, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- i personally think that a list should be made of the Eagle indy/champ car chassis, then this and the other Eagle cars will be redirected to said list Vantage-TWR (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Motorsport-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:43, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Is creating a new subheading under All American Racers#USAC & CART Champ Car for race cars an option here? The other two individual race car articles at this time period (Eagle MK-V and Eagle 997) are arguably non-notable, too. If so, I would support a merge & redirect to the All American Racers USAC & CART Champ car section (if it is made), per SportingFlyer and FrankAnchor. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - CART was a pretty major series at this point in time, but it's long enough ago that sources won't necessarily be readily available online. I strongly suspect that this would pass WP:GNG if offline sources were taken into account, but without knowing how or where to access said sources I can't vote to keep in good faith. If Racer have any archives that might be a good place to start, alongside period editions of Autocourse and Autosport. I'm not really that familiar with the US motorsport publishing landscape though, so there may be some fairly obvious sources I'm missing that could potentially contain significant coverage of this racing car. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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