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"The best content is developed through civil collaboration between editors who hold opposing points of view."
by Valjean. From WP:NEUTRALEDIT

"The quality of Wikipedia articles rises with the number of editors per article as well as a greater diversity among them."[1]

When all else fails, AGF and remember that

We Just Disagree
So let's leave it alone, 'cause we can't see eye to eye.
There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy.
There's only you and me, and we just disagree.

by Dave Mason (Listen)

Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement
Try to stay in the top three sections of this hierarchy.

You see this?

[2] Andre🚐 19:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we've known that he was accused of lying since Spring, but now he has actually confessed. Nice! Giuliani has some unsavory Russian intelligence accomplices in his efforts to cover-up Trump's misdeeds and cast the blame on others, such as Biden and Ukraine. Nasty business. Our content that says that "no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden has been found" (paraphrase) is still accurate. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:46, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, your sharp mind is needed at Talk:E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump#"Falsely_stated"??. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check it out when I have some time. Andre🚐 20:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

Happy First Edit Day!

Have a very happy first edit anniversary!

From the Birthday Committee, DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit which concerns you

Hello, please see the edit summary for this edit. Johnj1995 (talk) 23:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong and you know it.

"Your criticism carries no weight with us as long as you show so much evidence you [are a biased hypocrite]."

"You have been lied to."

"Never repeat what you [posted to me] ever again."

Now that the shoe is on the other foot "...maybe you should get better sources and new friends." Chompaydm (talk) 16:22, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

? What are you talking about? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:26, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You know what you did. 2601:248:C000:147A:105D:AF20:6926:3AB0 (talk) 12:17, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No idea. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 13:50, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification on my 4 February 2024 comment

Sorry to bring this up again, but when I said "User:Valjean told me I need to get consensus on the talk page first." (link here: [3]), I actually meant to say "User:GiantSnowman told me I need to get consensus on the talk page first.", per this revision: [4]. 123957a (talk) 11:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:43, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – February 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

Administrator changes

readded
  • Arcticocean
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removed Euryalus

CheckUser changes

removed
  • Firefly
  • L235

Oversighter changes

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  • Firefly
  • Guerillero
  • L235
  • Moneytrees

Technical news

  • Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
  • A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.

The Signpost: 7 February 2025

Removal of talk page comment

Is there a reason you removed this comment? It was reasonably on-topic and there is no WP:ECR sanction in place. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:54, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I could be mistaken, but it looked like the same type of IP comment we have removed on sight several times, possibly from the same person (hence my not repeating previous explanations this time). Like I said, I could be mistaken. Maybe it was on another page. Feel free to restore it and answer it. I'd like to see how you deal with it in a better way. I have no doubt you can, and I can learn from your example. It's just so tiring dealing with these repeated attempts to push unsourced claims and not go by what RS say. I will try to be more careful in the future. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If it's not plainly disruptive just ignore it and trust the closer to weigh those responses as they should be. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that makes sense. Sorry about that. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 01:49, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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