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24 February 2012
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Created during the same time with a 2 day difference, very similar style of editing and same range of articles within Tamil cinema. Two features to be noted are putting summaries oddly inside two brackets (1, 2) and other similarities in summaries. X.One SOS 13:52, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Many instances of incivility like 1, 2, 3. But overall, half of the edits are constructive, I don't deny that. X.One SOS 14:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  •  Additional information needed How are they being used abusively? WilliamH (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is actually a month age difference between the creation of the two accounts. Looking at the style of writing, abbreviations, the double parentheses , the similar not exactly diplomatic way of addressing other editors, and a couple of other factors makes me strongly suspect that there is evasion of scrutiny by a single editor in violation of WP:SOCK, such as with these two edits mentioned above, and I checked. Smithsuper is a  Confirmed sock of Bothiman.
  •  Clerk assistance requested: Please amend this case accordingly, thanks. WilliamH (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sock blocked, warning master for incivility and first time socking. Any repeated actions should result in a block. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 02:46, 25 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
31 October 2012
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I changed the image of Vijay (actor) citing image license incompatibility. User:Bothiman reverted my edit giving some illogical reason. I reverted again citing the permission description of the image at Wikimedia Commons. Then suddenly User:Stylishedit appears at commons and removes the permission description at commons and then comes back and reverts my edit at Vijay (actor). Then I had a long conversion with User:Stylishedit at my talk page, where I explained the user about image licensing. During the course of the conversation, I realized that the image is missing source for the claimed free license. So, I tagged the image at commons for deletion. User:Stylishedit kept reverting me and finally User:Bothiman comes back and gives me a warning message for putting deletion template at commons. Anbu121 (talk me) 18:11, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Still reviewing edits, but it seems to me that the licensing on that image is incorrect, and incompatible with Common's policies. Granted, that's their problem, but if any Commons admins happen by, that probably needs nuking. Hersfold non-admin(t/a/c) 18:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

06 February 2018

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I'm looking at the edit history for Vijay (actor). The most prolific editors there are Starunique and Cyctolaugh. What's odd about these people, is that they're all basically using the same edit summaries and they seem to drool over Vijay. I've asked Cyctolaugh and Starunique if they are using multiple accounts. Starunique hasn't answered--he seems to have taken a break from his prolific editing, but Cyctolaugh denied it. Something about them isn't sitting well with me though.

Assuming they are the same person, the question is if they are misusing accounts. I personally think they are because of edits like these:

  • [1][2] Here, Cyctolaugh adds content about Vijay being the most searched South Indian actor on Google, then in the next edit, removes the South Indian qualifier, basically making the claim that Vijay is the most Googled actor. Huge difference. The source he uses is this, which looks like a headline with no other content. Also, it's from December 2014. Vijay could have been the most Googled South Indian actor of December 2014, but we're to believe that he's currently the most Googled actor on the planet. This is puffery to the extreme.
  • Here he decides of his own volition that Vivegam only grossed 112 crore rupees instead of 167 crore rupees. Both figures are sourced.

Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:14, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 Confirmed + Onepiececan (talk ·  · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki).  Blocked and tagged. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

24 February 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

  • Account created about 10 days after the last sock account, Cyctolaugh, was blocked.
  • A string of recent edits at Vijay (actor), a normal stomping ground. User really loves this actor.
  • User creates talk page, and sandbox, which is the same thing Cyctolaugh did here and here. No doubt to avoid redlinks.
  • In this edit, Tomjackie adds the phrasing " As of 2017, Vijay is the only actor in south India to have six films earn ₹100 crore (US$16 million) or more at the worldwide box office." This was content that was originally added by Cyctolaugh, which had been removed by another editor. Tomjackie's restoration of this content suggests strongly that Bothiman was reviewing the edit history to see what had changed. New users don't typically go into edit histories to restore previously deleted content.
  • In the editor's history, there are exactly 10 edits just before he starts working on Vijay. This looks like he was just making perfunctory edits until he became autoconfirmed, so that he could then start on the Vijay article.
  • There are some dissimilarities, though. While Tomjackie has used the visual editor, he's not as reliant on it. Cyctolaugh usually employed edit summaries, where Tomjackie has not. Also, I don't see Tomjackie intersecting with Cyctolaugh elsewhere. Cyctolaugh edited a lot of Vijay film articles. I don't see the same pattern yet with Tomjackie. (Although as noted above, Tomjackie's other edits might just be random perfunctory ones.) So based on these dissimilarities, I'm holding off on indeffing and asking for a CU to look at it, please. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:38, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Very  Likely.  Blocked and tagged. Closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:13, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

04 March 2018

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Quack.

  • Introductory edits look like standard "hey, I'm a sock and I want to get autoconfirmed" edits.
  • After that he dives into Vijay (actor), monkeying with the images, which is what Starunique and Cyctolaugh were really into. They were changing the images every few days or so and they were really into Indian Tamil actor Vijay.
  • Wecanne claims to be a software engineer, so did Good ol Tommy Mathews (Tomjackie).

@BU Rob13: You blocked this user for CU issues, but it wasn't an indef. Is it worth looking at again? Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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26 August 2018

Suspected sockpuppets

Solomonyuu basically sprang out of nowhere to start puffing up Vijay (actor). This article gets some edits here and there, but Bothiman socks have been fairly prolific in this area.

  • Here's an example of a Bothiman sock adding some information about Vijay helping the daughter of a tea stall owner get into a private college.
  • Here are two examples of Solomonyuu highlighting specific philanthropic works, like when Vijay helped flood victims. Or here where Vijay gave money to the family of a sucide victim. While these are certainly demonstrable, it hints at a promotional motivation, since that's largely what the Bothiman socks were doing: maintaining the article and puffing up Vijay.
  • Solomonyuu uses lots of edit summaries. Almost all start lowercase.
  • Cyctolaugh used lots of edit summaries, but most were one word. So it's kind of a similarity with Solomonyuu. However the both of them have used "boxoffice" (not "box office") in summaries, so that's interesting.
  • Promotion of Vijay here.
  • Significant areas of intersection between Solomonyuu and other Bothiman socks at Vijay (actor), List of awards and nominations received by Vijay, Mersal (film), Puli (2015 film), all related to Vijay. Subtext: This guy really, really likes Vijay (or, perhaps, is paid to edit these articles.) Other intersections at Ajith Kumar, although some edits are less complimentary, removing sourced content and noting that the subject failed 10th standard (unsourced), and adding subtle moral judgments that the subject juggles multiple girlfriends. Perhaps Ajith Kumar is a competitor?
  • One of the earlier socks, maybe Cyctolaugh, kept adding images and moving them around and changing the infobox image over and over. I'm not seeing that this time around, but the fascination with Vijay is strong here.
  • User may also be editing while logged out from 2.24.215.79, a UK ISP. But obviously, no CU for that.

There's a small margin of "I'm not positive", hence my CU request. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:02, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Inconclusive. There's nothing recent enough in the archives to make a comparison to Bothiman, unfortunately - all the listed socks have been inactive for well over three months. There is another account out there that is a technical match to Solomonyuu, in the form of User:Everyky, but since that account has never edited there's no actual abuse of multiple accounts there. Leaving this for another admin to check, since  Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. Note that if Solomonyuu is blocked as a result, Everyky should also be blocked as a sleeper. Yunshui 雲水 11:56, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

11 December 2018

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Similar Vijay edits, confirmed by CU as a sock of Solomonyuu, a previously blocked Bothiman sock. Logging this for the record, clerks should feel free to archive. Yunshui 雲水 15:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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 Confirmed Yunshui 雲水 15:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

18 January 2019

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Gibberish usernames and nearly every edit overlaps with at least one of the socks. Probably more and will add as I come across them. Praxidicae (talk) 17:44, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See userpages as well: Lkjhgfdsartyuiop, Fghjkltyuiop. Praxidicae (talk) 16:40, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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17 February 2019

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The way he edits articles in favour of Vijay, and writes that the actor has become a British citizen because of marrying a British woman (Is the source right though?) Kailash29792 (talk) 05:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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18 February 2019

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Same random characters as Fghjop and Fghjkltyuiop. Both users edits are to add images of Vijay to odd articles. In particular, Dfghtry add an image here and then 9 hours later Damcooldas changes it to a different image but still of Vijay.

CU is to look for sleepers as both of these were created after the last sock was blocked. Ravensfire (talk) 03:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, wow. That's a rather impressive sock drawer. Thanks! Ravensfire (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Confirmed:
T. Canens (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commons is aware of this drawer also, as that's where they dump their images. The images themselves are unacceptable there on simple policy grounds, but the user-socking makes it even more obviously deletable. DMacks (talk) 06:56, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

22 February 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

Their edit here [3] adds the same image [4] as Rtjkl blocked as a sock of Bothiman. Image includes Bothiman's favorite actor, Vijay. Ravensfire (talk) 03:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks User:Bbb23...those found me a few more images to nuke. DMacks (talk) 18:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

14 March 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

The last batch of Bothiman socks were blocked at the end of February. It's been a little over three weeks and this guy shows up. I often see sockpuppets hide for either a few days or a couple of weeks.

  • User name looks random and throw-away, which has been the case with some of the recent Bothiman socks like Gjdgjg and Asrtyuihgx
  • Articles about Vijay (actor) are very attractive to Bothiman, who tends to fluff them up. Bothiman could be a paid editor. In these 14 edits Fgassh makes four edit requests at Talk:Vijay (actor).
  • Highlighting the Vijay obsession, the user has also tried to have the Vijay article page protection lowered so "Legible users with less number of edits" can make changes. Legible? He's also canvassed a number of users to make his changes, including DannyS712, JamesBWatson, GrahamHardy, M15s09, and Kuyabribri. Bothiman previously tried to get M15s09 to make edits on his behalf.
  • Since they haven't made any edits to articles, it's difficult to get behavioral markers, but the biggest suggestion that this is probably Bothiman, is in the Vijay (actor) edit history. Prior to the extended protection, we occasionally had some random users edit the article, but the intensive, major changes, typically came from Bothiman socks, like here in September 2018 where there's a dozen edits by Solomonyuu, a suspected Bothiman sock. And these 11 edits by Rtyu33 in November 2018. The point being, anybody who would require 14 page saves to leave four edit requests, and who is suddenly pushing for these requests to be implemented immediately, is almost certainly Bothiman. He has also often had multiple accounts going at once, so a deep scan would be appreciated. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:46, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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30 March 2019

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New editor active on Talk:Vijay (actor) which has been ECP protected because of Bothiman socks. Makes a request here that is nearly identical to prior Bothiman sock Fgassh. Ravensfire (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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—DoRD (talk)​ 16:37, 30 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

31 March 2019

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Thanks to @QueerEcofeminist: for putting me on to this. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 05:54, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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—DoRD (talk)​ 18:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

26 April 2019

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Like VigneshVijayaRaj, 7VM has also created a page about Ram Kumar (currently at Draft:Ram Kumar (director)) and edited the List of Tamil films of 2019 article. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment 7VM also created Pradeep K Vijayan which was deleted[5] on March 31 as created by another Bothiman sock. Ravensfire (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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07 May 2019

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Abhilashsnair was another user who had created a "Ram Kumar" draft (currently at Draft:Ram Kumar, which I had G13'ed) 6 months ago. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:18, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Without revealing too much about my thinking, I note that the version of Ram Kumar that Abhilashsnair created was quite a bit different from the various drafts created by Bothiman & assorted sockpuppets. Admins will be able to see what I mean. I find this doubtful. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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12 August 2019

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  • Jambleross recreated Selfie Pulla, which had been created and edited by Bothiman socks. If you look at the last deleted version of the article it bears a striking resemblance to this version of Selfie Pulla. This song was sung by Indian Tamil actor Vijay. This user also created IARA Awards UK. Back a few months, Bothiman socks were trying to inflate Vijay's award list with non-notable awards and one of them was IARA. The instruction I gave them back then, before I knew they were socking, was that we don't include awards unless their notability has been demonstrated, i.e. do they have an article? So pretty transparently, they created an article about the award to legitimize the award's addition in that list.
  • Jackmorrisan - Also has a focus on Vijay. Has edited the award article many times, including more questionable awards like FilmToday and Roja Duke, and more here. This is the same crap the other socks were doing. Also, note that here in his sandbox he's working on a draft of an IARA article. And here he is working on a draft of Selfie Pulla. Lastly, this 11:27, August 3, 2019 version of the IARA article looks like it precipitated these 16:23, August 3, 2019 improvements in Jackmorrisan's sandbox.
  • On August 3, 2019 (UTC) Jambleross edited the Singappenney article here. Guess what pops up in Jackmorrisan's sandbox here, but a mention of this song. Note that Bothiman also edited this article as Rahunuther.

They're both fishy. And weirdly enough, these two have zero editing intersections. I think Bothiman is using Jambleross for good-hand editing (burying some of his edits underneath useful ones), and Jackmorrisan for the dirty work of doing marketing for Vijay.

As for XARyz, I'm less certain about them being a specific sock, but I'm getting a Undisclosed Paid Editing vibe here. They created the article on Singappenney mentioned above, and they also created IARA Awards, which has been deleted. They were in contact with a user Andoster who was CU blocked by TonyBallioni as a sock of Bothiman. Andoster tried to create Draft:IARA Awards. That's a lot of people interested in this questionable award!

Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:34, 12 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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17 November 2019

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  • Singhtejass's early edits to user talk pages appear to show him hard at work trying to get Fylindfotberserk to update the Bigil film gross figures. Bigil is a film that stars Vijay, and as the SPI archive will show, Bothiman appears to only be here to promote Vijay.
  • Singhtejass also creates a user page, then immediately deletes it, which is a classic attempt to go under the radar.
  • Similarly, a week earlier, Giskonn, a puppet CU confirmed to a suspected Bothiman sock is trying to use Fylindfotberserk as an unaware meatpuppet, again related to the Vijay film Bigil.
  • Curnell also does the user page creation/user page blanking thing.[6]. He does it twice, which just looks like he's trying to set up for autoconfirmed status. Note that he edits a lot on the 12th, then returns a few days later. While this account is not interested in Bigil yet, Curnell appears to be here to drool over Vijay here and here and here. Since he often has multiple accounts open at the same time, I'm asking for a CU to poke around, please. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I suspected that Singhtejass might be Giskonn (after the latter got banned), but preferred to wait for sometime before starting an SPI. Although I found that annoying, the sources supplied by Giskonn were reliable. Damn, got duped real good. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:04, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Singhtejass and Curnell are  Confirmed. Visitoeking (talk ·  · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is  Possilikely (a mix between possible and likely). Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

11 December 2019

Suspected sockpuppets

This is a pretty obvious sock per the usual cues, including the Vijay sycophancy, and I have blocked it accordingly. Recommending CU because he often has a few accounts open at a time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:40, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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27 December 2019

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Same obsession with Vijay (actor) recreating Solomonyuu's draft as IARA UK Award+ overlap here and here Praxidicae (talk) 14:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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10 October 2020

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Yet another Madan Gowri spam sock, worth noting they also use the same editing methods, mobile edit, mobile web edit Praxidicae (talk) 15:11, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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31 August 2023

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This can be a long shot. His initial edit on the Kaavalan image after account creation, [7], is what triggered my suspicion. After a little search, I stumbled upon this SPI. I am sure a new account will not know about WP:BLPNAME policy, there is a active WP:DE & RfC going on in Talk:Vijay (actor) regarding the same. And User:Goodgirly has interacted with the Kaavalan image, Vijay (actor) and MS Dhoni like the other socks. Requesting CU w.r.t. previous history

Between User:Goodgirly and User:Bothiman - Table view on the Interaction Analyser.

Between User:Goodgirly and User:Sanjay7Ronaldo - Table view on the Interaction Analyser. Jeraxmoira (talk) 05:55, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Happened to notice that the suspected sock here has been confirmed as a sock in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pauldereck, so noting it here for information. Best, A smart kitten (talk) 17:18, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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15 August 2024

Suspected sockpuppets

Recently this IP, geolocated to Uruguay, has been adding unreliably (not WP:ICTF, WP:RSP) sourced financial figures in actor Vijay related film articles [8] [9] [10], etc. After being reverted, they restored those non-RS using a different IP, geolocated to Belarus - [11] with the excuse "What source do you expect for a decade old film indianexpress?"; [12].

Today, the Uruguay IP against restored those [13] [14]. They have also added that non-RS in other articles. Considering the locations of the IP, it is obvious they are proxies, and that the IP user might be a sock of User:Bothiman, known for being a Fan of Tamil actor Vijay. Previous SPI here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ST47: I understand. What might be the next course of action since the IPs are most likely operated by the same person? I'd like to ping @Geniac: who had suggested me to start an SPI here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Allikas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Bothiman/Archive
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