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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 16:57, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Subject certainly fails WP:NHOCKEY as a player, with only 25 games in the AHL which is well short of passing #2 and he has no preeminent honours in the ECHL, CHL nor in college to pass #3 and #4. He is currently president of the South Carolina Stingrays of the ECHL, but seeing that the league doesn't automatically grant notability for players, I assume it's the same for non-playing staff, hence the nomination. But if being president of an ECHL franchise does grant notability, I will withdraw the nomination. Tay87 (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Tay87 (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Tay87 (talk) 01:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete a non-notable hockey player.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:44, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep meets WP:SPORTBASIC by playing at the highest level of professional roller hockey. -DJSasso (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Fails the multiple sources requirement at WP:SPORTBASIC for rollerhockey work. Otherwise fails WP:NHOCKEY.4meter4 (talk) 12:48, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• I would point out that the purpose of NSPORTS is the assumption of having those sources if they meet the requirements in it. By playing in RHI he played at the highest level of professional roller hockey and it is presumed he can meet GNG. Going back to the 90s for sources would likely require going to paper sources which is the point of NSPORTS, to protect those atheletes especially from before the internet's prominence who are likely to meet GNG. -DJSasso (talk) 10:42, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Djsasso. Rlendog (talk) 14:17, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Upon nomination I never once took roller hockey into consideration. I apologise for my ignorance towards this and although I cannot withdraw the nomination because of the previous delete votes I would certainly prefer if the article remained per the keep votes and their reasons. Tay87 (talk) 14:47, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While my apology remains, I have to chance my stance per WT:NSPORTS#Notability of Roller Hockey International players that the article can indeed be deleted as the general opinion is RHI players should not be granted automatic notability unless they pass WP:NHOCKEY, WP:GNG or both, and the subject passes neither. Tay87 (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Per nom. , Does not meet WP:GNG Alex-h (talk) 13:39, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• delete Fails to meet WP:NHOCKEY or the GNG. The discussion at WT:NSPORT on RHI player notability does not support the claim of automatic notability.Sandals1 (talk) 15:08, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails to meet WP:NHOCKEY or WP:GNG. There appears to be a strong consensus at WT:NSPORTS#Notability of Roller Hockey International players that merely playing in the RHI does not show notability.Papaursa (talk) 22:46, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: Actually per WT:NSPORTS#Notability of Roller Hockey International players the subject fails notability so if I was to change my mind it would be to Delete. Tay87 (talk) 15:32, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm totally neutral on this, but for the sake of whoever comes along in a week to close this, please clarify your stance. The nomination says you want to delete it, then you added a comment on 25 September saying you want to keep it, and now you're back to wanting to delete it. This is really confusing. You can make as many comments as you want, and change your mind as often as you want, but in the end, please strike out anything which you no longer stand by so it's clear to the closing admin what your desire is. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:38, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith:Basically, he failed WP:NHOCKEY, hence the deletion nomination. THEN, I was informed that this guy and two Jason Clark's (Jason Clark and Jason Clarke) passed WP:SPORTBASIC as they “played in the highest professional league in roller hockey”. And I was ignorant towards roller hockey when I made the nomination for these three people. Out of guilt and remorse I attempted to withdraw my nomination of one of the Clarks but was told I could not because of the delete votes, hence my comment here. THEN fast forward to the current discussion regarding notability of Roller Hockey International players, the aforementioned highest professional league in roller hockey, where it has been determined that players who played in that league are NOT granted automatic notability and can only become notable if they pass WP:NHOCKEY, WP:GNG or both, and the subject in question passes neither. Therefore, based on these, I clarify and confirm, the article should be deleted. And this makes me all the more glad I'm ceasing AfDs. I frankly wish I never started it. Tay87 (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Does not meet WP:GNG with multiple sources of significant converage from indepenent sources. Fails WP:NHOCKEY also. Consensus at the similar Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Clarke (ice hockey) rejected that a professional athlete, regardless of their sport, was presumed to be notable. Only those mentioned explicitly under Wikipedia:Notability (sports) § Professional sports people shoud be presumed notable.—Bagumba (talk) 01:13, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, Does not meet WP:GNG, Alex-h (talk) 10:25, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, I do not see how he meets any inclusion guidelines including GNG.18abruce (talk) 23:51, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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