The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy delete—G12. Ruslik_Zero 18:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Positive psychotherapy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Although the words "positive" and "psychotherapy" appear together often in the scholarly literature and in books, this article is so poorly written, so biased in favor of one definition and trumpeting one person that it should be deleted (and perhaps userfied) until it (possibly) can be brought back. At present, none of the grandiose claims in the article are verified, for those of you who might be inclined to say that AfD is not cleanup--cleaning this up will leave nothing. If anybody can find where this is copied (and copy-vio) from please tell us. Abductive (talk) 20:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• comment- all forms of psychotherapy try to be positive psychotherapy surely, no types try to be 'evil' psychotherapy.:) The title is inherently a coatrack for a WP:POV, saying that one type is better than others. Sticky Parkin 23:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• delete. no references, no indication of notability. if after 4 years no one, including the creator of the term, can come up with a reference in a peer reviewed journal, etc, then its a nonnotable psych theory. i dont think the name gives it any credibility, nor should it. one sentence on the theorists article should be enough. just checked, the author site has all his books, so he is notable, but the subject is not. and his article needs to be rewritten.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 11:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Try searching for his name along with "Positive therapie" or "Positive psychotherapie" and you'll find plenty of news sources in German referring to this. The article needs slashing back to a stub, but it should be kept in some form. Sticky Parkin's coatrack argument is a total red herring, as that's the name of the therapy! Fences&Windows 21:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • How do you/we know if the German "Positive psychotherapie" is the same as the English "Positive psychotherapy"? A reading of the English scientific literature has left me unconvinced that there is a unified definition in English. Since this is the English Wikipedia, we should follow the English usage. The problem here is mostly WP:V, but I don't think it is a notable subdiscipline of psychotherapy either. Abductive (talk) 23:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Insofaras this is associated with Dr Peseschkian, searching on his name too helps clarify that sources are related to the same topic. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:42, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - no evidence presented or found of notability, verifiability or encylopaedicity. If anyone does find anything, it will be as easy to just start again than trying to shoehorn this into something remotely like a valuable article. Thryduulf (talk) 11:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Copyvio on the face of it even if the original source is not immediately Googleable. DreamGuy (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Numerous sources in both English and German for Dr Peseschkian's version, never mind other flavours. AFD is not cleanup. Colonel Warden (talk) 19:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• G12 speedy delete The content is copied from these sources: [1], [2], [3], [4]. Timmeh 23:47, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've checked those sources and agree it's a speedy delete for copyright violation. I've tagged the article as such as having voted delete above I don't think my deleting it would be appropriate. Thryduulf (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks. I was going to tag it myself, but I figured the closing admin would speedy delete it after closing the AfD early, as is usually done. Timmeh 16:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.