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The result was merge to California State University, Stanislaus. (non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Try also alternative name: Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL (and modifications such as adding "Turlock", outside the quoted "Warrior Gym"). --doncram 06:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fails WP:GNG, as the given source is primary and searching gives no independent reliable sources. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 03:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge (was "Keep"). I don't care greatly. But it is a public facility, a multipurpose arena which is named constantly in sports schedules and sports news articles, and it is a good function for Wikipedia to provide reference type information about such. There is a long list of college arenas within List of indoor arenas in the United States; we apparently cover these. I see many more hits when Googling on "Warrior Gym". --doncram 06:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it would be reasonable to have an article about every college or university's main sports indoor arena and/or main outdoor stadium. Note, there are articles about dozens or hundreds of minor high school gyms, such as Tate Gymnasium, a dinky one in rural Georgia that just happens to be listed on the National Register, so notability is not questioned. But there's far more usefulness in covering college arenas. --doncram 06:47, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• The article on California State University, Stanislaus is not overly long and doesn't make any mention of the arena, far as I can see. How about we merge into that, leaving behind a redirect for categorization purposes? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:39, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • That sounds like it would be reasonable, if the arena was simply used by CSU, Stanislaus. But it is noted to be significant here, apparently, that it is the home arena of the Big Valley Shockwave (currently a redlink) of the American Basketball Association (21st century). I assume Big Valley Shockwave is notable. If it had an article and linked to the arena, then it would be okay. But it's not necessarily okay to mention Big Valley Shockwave in the CSU Stanislaus article (it would likely get edited out if it were mentioned). So I think Keep is still best for the moment. --doncram 22:36, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems to me that the Big Valley Shockwave (currently a redlink) folded before its first season began, per scant findings i put into its entry at List of former American Basketball Association teams#B. So it doesn't need an article nor to be mentioned in a merger target article, and Shawn in Montreal's suggestion is fine by me. Using the redirect to hang the appropriate categories upon sounds like a good idea. --doncram 00:07, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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