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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 16:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
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Similar case to Ciudad Deportiva Rafael Gómez; my WP:BEFORE search found nothing more than trivial, routine mentions for this collection of training pitches. The only in-depth coverage is from this blog. Redirect is a possibility but there are three possible targets Deportivo Fabril, Deportivo de La Coruña (women) and Deportivo de La Coruña. This does not look to pass WP:GNG. Spiderone 10:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
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- Do not delete. IMO it is not the same case, as in the Ciudad Deportiva Rafael Gómez article; firstly - this applies to the training ground of a fairly strong team, which is probably only in the third division for a while, secondly - it is the home stadium for the Primera Division (highest, top tier) side Deportivo de La Coruña Women so it should meet Wikipedia criteria for this reason. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 18:55, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Have you got any evidence of extensive coverage to show that this passes WP:GNG? Spiderone 19:11, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, although the decision to remove (or keep the article) will still be arbitrary, due to the lack of detailed guidelines for football stadiums. This stadium; I would like to remind you - the Primera Division women's team, which should give him encyclopedic character; is described in independent sources - including the official Deportivo website [1]. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 08:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- There are applicable guidelines that we can use to assess the notability of a football stadium (or, in this case, a set of training pitches with one stand at the end); we have WP:GEOFEAT and WP:GNG. In response to the source provided, this does not qualify as an independent source as it is published by Deportivo itself. It is in fact a primary source so does not establish that the training ground is notable. Spiderone 16:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- I believe we should keep it - thanks to the notability given by the men's notable club (Primera Division top 10 in history) and Primera Division women's club. However, if you decide to delete it - it should be added to the Abegondo article under the "Sport" headline; and create the redirection there. To provide the information where does the team play. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 09:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- Whilst I understand where you are coming from, it's also important to remember that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. I agree that Deportivo is notable but that notability is not inherited by its training pitches. The training pitches would need to have significant coverage itself to warrant documenting separately. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand - in accordance with the standards, I suggest that this article should be deleted, but the content should be moved to the article "Abegondo". In the "sport" subsection, write about the fact that there is a sports center in this city; and make a "Cidade Deportiva de Abegondo" redirect; in this situation I change my opinion for Merge. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 16:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- My proposal is the make the redirection to that subsection of Abegondo#Cidade_Deportiva_de_Abegondo. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 16:11, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand - in accordance with the standards, I suggest that this article should be deleted, but the content should be moved to the article "Abegondo". In the "sport" subsection, write about the fact that there is a sports center in this city; and make a "Cidade Deportiva de Abegondo" redirect; in this situation I change my opinion for Merge. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 16:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Whilst I understand where you are coming from, it's also important to remember that notability is WP:NOTINHERITED. I agree that Deportivo is notable but that notability is not inherited by its training pitches. The training pitches would need to have significant coverage itself to warrant documenting separately. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- I believe we should keep it - thanks to the notability given by the men's notable club (Primera Division top 10 in history) and Primera Division women's club. However, if you decide to delete it - it should be added to the Abegondo article under the "Sport" headline; and create the redirection there. To provide the information where does the team play. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 09:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
- There are applicable guidelines that we can use to assess the notability of a football stadium (or, in this case, a set of training pitches with one stand at the end); we have WP:GEOFEAT and WP:GNG. In response to the source provided, this does not qualify as an independent source as it is published by Deportivo itself. It is in fact a primary source so does not establish that the training ground is notable. Spiderone 16:06, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, although the decision to remove (or keep the article) will still be arbitrary, due to the lack of detailed guidelines for football stadiums. This stadium; I would like to remind you - the Primera Division women's team, which should give him encyclopedic character; is described in independent sources - including the official Deportivo website [1]. 95.160.103.8 (talk) 08:08, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- Have you got any evidence of extensive coverage to show that this passes WP:GNG? Spiderone 19:11, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete per previous consensus. Not notable, not worth merging. GiantSnowman 18:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
- Delete run-of-the-mill. Nigej (talk) 20:36, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
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