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The result was keep‎. There is consensus that the sources presented in this discussion are sufficient to establish notability for this article's subject. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 02:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ľubomír Pištek (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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I'm not into ice hockey yet but currently nominating this article for deletion due to lack of sufficient coverage. The closest things to WP:SIGCOV are Sport Aktuality.sk and Nový čas. Another news source I could find was a divorce with his wife after 15 years; being/having been in a relationship is not a sign of notability. Other websites mostly come from blogs. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia is an unsourced stub, which might help copy over English Wikipedia if it wasn't. No news have been released on him over a decade, either. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Ice hockey, and Slovakia. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 11:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. The guy played over 400 games. It would be jaw-droppingly staggering if there were no sources. We shouldn't be looking strictly online Geschichte (talk) 14:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. I found [1], [2], [3], these and more in Czech and Slovak, but I am not sure how 'in-depth' they are.18abruce (talk) 16:58, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. The sources above are all heavily based around interviews, with very little secondary content (and/or are unreliable tabloids or blogs).

JoelleJay (talk) 18:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Its worth noting that this guy played over 400 games in leagues that formerly satisfied WP:NHOCKEY (before its removal); players previously in his leagues were notable for playing one game, now this is 400 being considered non-notable... BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That participation standards have been deprecated is neither new, nor is it news. It's a bit late in the day to bemoan it. Either we need to come up with SIGCOV, or the article can be deleted without prejudice until such time as someone can write an adequately sourced one. Ravenswing 23:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  My point is that we should be very cautious in saying this guy's non-notable when he played in 400 games, considering that previously everyone would have been notable for one (i.e. its a stretch to go from 1 = notable to 400+ = non-notable). BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Delete Weak Keep 400 games is a lot to play. However, there aren't any English articles on him that I can find. So if SIGCOV exists, it's likely going to be in Slovak. If they are shown, I will change my !vote. Conyo14 (talk) 04:33, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep? Its quite difficult to look for sources since I know nothing of either Czech or Slovak, but since it seems I'm the article's only hope I'll try. I seem to find several stories from Sport.SK, e.g. "Ľubomír Pištek's Slovak journey with Austrian hospitality", and others (another Sport.Sk piece), and then some coverage from Sportnet, e.g. 1 (2, 3), SportKy, idnez.cz, Cas, and a deadlink story from HokejPortal titled (translated) "Ľubomír Pištek will wear the HK Ardo Nitra jersey". While much of it is interview-ey and brief-ish I think it is probably enough for an athlete of his accomplishments, taking note of that fact that much of the coverage will likely be in offline sources and other languages. I agree with Geschhichte's point that It would be jaw-droppingly staggering if there were no sources considering that he played enough games to formerly be considered notable 400 times over. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Conyo14: Since you asked to be notified if any sources were found. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you, I have changed my !vote to reflect that, but still weak, as the sources are good but mostly mentions. So, maybe more will appear. Conyo14 (talk) 19:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as per WP:HEY demonstrating WP:GNG. Flibirigit (talk) 11:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added some more sources/content. Newklear007 (talk) 11:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep sources given above seem fine, not extensive, but enough. Oaktree b (talk) 16:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Weak Keep per the WP:GNG and WP:HEY. The sources from Sportnet appear to contain some relatively in-depth coverage, while a lot of the coverage provided here is in interview prose or is not significant it is enough at least for a weak pass. Let'srun (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - per Flibirigit.--Hockeyben ^{(talk - contribs)} 02:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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